From the Black Veil Brides.
Andy Biersack
From the Black Veil Brides.
Last edited by Chae; 06-28-2017 at 12:06 PM.
@darya could he be your dual, what do you think?
I wouldn't rule out EII
Wow ok o.O Based on what rationale or insight? Do you relate to him somehow?Originally Posted by tempest
What I know is that Andy is SX/SO incarnate.
Ahhh let's get @LuckyOne in here as well, do you get Beta vibes from him?
He's Alpha or Delta. Not Fe-Valuing, and not a Logical type. He has problems with Se, but can come off as Logical due to R-Base. Ti is stronger than Te. EII seems to fit nicely.
Problems with Se? He stated he got into conflict a lot, being a deliberate antagonist. What problem I see is that he can overreact when provoked so force is not measured.
Where is the Si?
Never heard of him, but I'll do my best
He started the first interview by saying "theoretically" so yeah, Ti Ego. Just kidding
In London it took me five years to know where I amI can't work out how to get anywhereVery non specific physicality, he can't interact with his environment intuitively, neither is he interested.If I didn't know a single landmark I'd be lost forever
Come on, @Chae, that guy can't beThere's something pleasing in about plugging something in very flat. I feel like a superheroor
Ego! Clearly, it's a foreign realm to him. He's confused and amazed by the most simple realities
Also, where's the Ni? Don't tell me it's about time references again
Very silly humour too i.e. his "plug" wordplay.
His rationalization for doing a solo project resonates asand
, there's worry about identity in a very people inclusive way. He's Ethical, see how he doesn't want fans to feel bad about not enjoying the band's work.
I've only watched this one, but I say EII. He gave we Delta vibes right away, as soon as I've seen his face.
/cue surprise gif/Never heard of him, but I'll do my best
He started the first interview by saying "theoretically" so yeah, Ti Ego. Just kidding
Very non specific physicality, he can't interact with his environment intuitively, neither is he interested.
Come on, @Chae, that guy can't be
His rationalization for doing a solo project resonates as
I've only watched this one, but I say EII. He gave we Delta vibes right away, as soon as I've seen his face.
(And thanks ily)
Anytime, I got you babe/cue surprise gif/
(And thanks ily
Overreacting to force is a good indicator for Se-Vulnerable and he seems pretty relaxed & go with the flow for Si-Mobilizing.
Never was a celeb typed so quickly on here
Perfect evidence:
Sorry, no idea about his type. But LSI is not the first thing that springs to mind
Ah! So you had some association(s)?Sorry, no idea about his type. But LSI is not the first thing that springs to mind
Ok - @Myst, whatchu thinking?EII?
No idea but not really LSI.Ok - @Myst, whatchu thinking?
That sounds interesting, boring in what exact way? I feel the other way around, there's dullness in his way of delivery but the content is quite varied. Especially when he goes on these long tangents. One user in the comment section said that he basically follows the pattern of rectifying/justifying literally everything he says, and I can definitely see that as well.
He could be an EII, but he seems stereotypically Se/Ni.
He's boring... because his delivery is monotonous, he doesn't really seem to be saying much of anything (that catches my attention), he has zero charisma, and he seems to be trying too hard to be "edgy", when he actually has no edginess bone in his body:
V.I.!
Since my visual identifi-radar seems to help these day's I'll give it a shot.
I tried to find non-staged photoshoot pictures because he's just frowning in all of them lmao. Likely enneagram 6 SX signature guarded pose/ hostile rock star default glare. I looked for images where he's in a group or private setting. Andy's got 4w3 and 9 in his tritype so he's mega people-conscious, but then fairly different out of the public eye so I was looking for that. Another factor was no make-upAlthough that itself might be an indicator, he likes painting his face with intricate stuff.
With a fellow band member Ashley Purdy. Tight-lipped and totally spaced out --> I guess:. He is quietly animated, Fi > Fe. Purdy is SF as a comparison.
Aggressively "judgy" and sceptical.. Rational posture which is either choppy in movement or composed.
Fi here and also lots of intuition, receiving rather than gripping. Coordination is poor but ethics are high, he is spirited upon human contact. Mind the posture, it's really intricate, some Si stuff is going on.
Body type: definitely intuitive when you trust Kamenskaya, lengthy and thin structure. He looks a bit helpless as well and not quite in touch with what he's doing. Si rather than Se, not taking up space + more focus on aesthetics, he's always suited up particularly in black + the tattoos/hair has to be on point. He looks like a crossover of Justin Bieber and Harry Styles, also fashion-wise with the pants + sleeve tats.
Here we haveand
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Kissing his wife, very shy and soft but interpersonally secure/straightforward:
Leaves us with IFj. EII very likely, or maybe ESI-Fi.
Last edited by Chae; 03-13-2017 at 03:19 AM.
That's just SX/SO shenanigans. Is edginessThe bug scene lmao.
Well I would say that stereotypical "edginess" is Se, but some Se role can be edgy. I think what separates Se-valuing from Ne-valuing is that Se has no problem with being "above" someone, like saying "I am awesome and you suck" etc. Ne-valuing may make fun of people or whatever or be a bit passive-aggressive, but they don't usually try to be above anyone in general. They don't try to dominate over people, to make others subordinate to them in a direct way. It's like everyone is sort of equal with Ne. I get that sense from Andy Biersack.That's just SX/SO shenanigans. Is edginess
In that case, you need to need to meet my enneagram 3 ass
Se superiority is territory and strength, not a "y'all peasants" attitude - that's aristocracy. I agree that Andy is quite lax in that regard, it's certainly not aggresive although he tries to emulate in in his performances.
Yeah, what I meant was that it's an act of subordinating others to them, not just having a sense of superiority or judgments. They have no problem with saying stuff like "I rule over you", which you don't hear that often from Ne-valuers.In that case, you need to need to meet my enneagram 3 ass
Se superiority is territory and strength, not a "y'all peasants" attitude - that's aristocracy. I agree that Andy is quite lax in that regard, it's certainly not aggresive although he tries to emulate in in his performances.
Yep, that's what we're looking for. Andy being all "do whatever you like, follow what you believe" seems to be the exact opposite since it's so laissez-faire.
I need oversee him now
I need oversee him now
Maybe their videos are more dramatic and over-the-top Delta NF videos that focus more on stylishness over overt display of power:
They remind me of the Japanese Visual-kei bands, which might make sense, since Japan is a very Delta country...
He reminds me of a singer called Lights... I think she's an IEI though. Maybe it's an sx thing:
LII-Ne. Don't ask me why. It was just an impression. I didn't watch much. I just don't see him as ethical.
Edit: He lacks the underlying "warmth" and "weight" (like they carry a burden on their soul) of every EII I have known irl.
I have a weight of energy scale in my mind. Alphas being the lightest in energy weight and deltas being the heaviest so in my mind closer to earth. It is not a scale of good/bad. Sometimes depressed people can feel heavy in a different way than what I am talking about.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@Singularity
When I watched them I thought meh... step your game up, that ain't convincing. The concept is always the same: fire or apocalypse. I'd expect a Se band to go all out and threaten everyone with more determination. They Brides don't say "We're the top dog and destroy you! BOW!" but make it look like it. It's definitely more about aesthetics and the message.
Like this solo video he made - it starts out with all those symbols and you think oh shit... now he'll give it to us raw. But then, soft pop-ish music starts
Japan also has some parts of Alpha NT culture, too.
I don't know what this is supposed to mean, but he talks about being an invisible/powerless man in his lyrics on his early years.
[Verse 1]
Some nights you lie
Some nights you don't
But they all feel the same
Sometimes you wish you could turn to stone
And be perfect always
I, I can't feel like this no more
In the crowd alone cause no one wants to know you
Do they?
Don't they?
[Pre-Chorus]
Right here but no one's watching
[Chorus]
Here comes the invisible man
That no one turns to see
I'm just another dumb fool
Never go down in history
Yeah, you're standing there with the homecoming king
Turn the silver spoon into a diamond ring
Can he make you disappear without anyone noticing?
Yeah, fuck the homecoming king!
You see your life is drawn out
Don't feel the world that you know
Caught in the tower singing
"Oh no, that's not the life I chose!"
[Verse 2]
Most days you rise and start to fade
Cause no one loves you
Avert their eyes and look away
Life without virtue
I, I can't feel like this no more
You walk these halls and feel the same
Cause you can't find your place
[Pre-Chorus]
Right here but no one's watching
[Chorus]
Here comes the invisible man
That no one turns to see
I'm just another dumb fool
Never go down in history
Yeah, you're standing there with the homecoming king
Turn the silver spoon into a diamond ring
Can he make you disappear without anyone noticing?
Yeah, fuck the homecoming king!
[Bridge]
And I stare at the fan on the ceiling
All night, all night
All these memories won't stop running
My mind, my mind
And the rats in the walls keep scratching
My life, my life
And all the voices won't stop laughing
I can't fight again!
[Chorus]
Here comes the invisible man
That no one turns to see
I'm just another dumb fool
Never go down in history
Yeah, you're standing there with the homecoming king
Turn the silver spoon into a diamond ring
Can he make you disappear without anyone noticing?
Yeah, fuck the homecoming king!
[Outro]
You see your life is drawn out
Don't feel the world that you know
Caught in the tower singing
"Oh no, that's not the life I chose!"
You see your hands are tied now
Just like your eyes will stay closed
Caught in the tower singing
"Oh no, that's not the life I chose!"
Yeah, I think those super clean and stylish aesthetics are Delta Si actually... I think ESTjs have a similar sense of aesthetics.
"We don't have to talk
We don't have to dance
We don't have to smile
We don't have to make friends
It's so nice to meet you,
Let's never meet again
We don't have to talk
We don't have to dance
We don't have to dance"
That sounds rather EII, actually...
Agreed! These lyrics are essentially relationship ethics going on + variety to what he wants to say, FiNe. What do you think his wife could be? I think she's indeed ESxx or something. Their wedding was equally aesthetic. TMI: I researched that they had a scandal where she turned out hitting him while drunk, they later reconciled everyone real quick on Instagram. A video was leaked where he wasn't even trying to stand up against her at all enduring it quietly--> makes me theorize she is the one high in
Oh my God, that's priceless!Agreed! These lyrics are essentially relationship ethics going on + variety to what he wants to say, FiNe. What do you think his wife could be? I think she's indeed ESxx or something. Their wedding was equally aesthetic. TMI: I researched that they had a scandal where she turned out hitting him while drunk, they later reconciled everyone real quick on Instagram. A video was leaked where he wasn't even trying to stand up against her at all enduring it quietly--> makes me theorize she is the one high in
Who is he, by the way?
Yeah it's weird, because she seems like a Se/Ni valuer. She even seems like an SEE.
@Maritsa What do you think about him? Is he EII?
Yes, he just sat there trying to calm her down (preventing more slapping) and then went cold like a stone. He was probably assessing the consequences as I intuit it, that was not a sensing reply. He can't square up even under abuse because he's so submissive. Their chemistry is really... it doesn't work, I think she's SEE, they're chained byOh my God, that's priceless!
Who is he, by the way?
I just discovered him recently so I don't know too much except that he founded this Rock Band (BVB) and then did some solo projects as Andy Sixx, Andy Black. Used to be much more "emo" in style.
Particular also his love for Batman? Probably his Superego ideal, Batsie is LSI.
She's got the Jennifer Lawrence intonation and style, yes. In some interview parts she talks about "wanting something so much" all while taking quick offense to her values, that matches up.
@Chae he's like a basset, really
It's clear what attracted him in her, but as for the opposite I wonder.
Lmao at the comparison@Chae he's like a basset, really
It's clear what attracted him in her, but as for the opposite I wonder.You have a point. How do you feel about him, how would you interact? Conflictors?
Well she said it: the bunny-blue-eyes resemblance and prediction. Kind of a weak reason to enter a relationship but who am I to rate this
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