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Last edited by Sol; 08-07-2016 at 06:52 PM.
Um this is a little freaky (and idk, probably not type related) but i was just looking at this pepper spray at the store a few days ago, wondering whether it actually works. I dont recommend testing these this way though. That guy is lucky it wasn't too strong.Originally Posted by Sol
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
How have you succeeded in missing the Total Biscuit? Yeah he has very few live videos, I agree, but just LISTEN to him! He's always on about some potentials and how he sucks at Te etc(like in Sim City games-he flatout says he sucks at them, not that he dislikes them, but that he just sucks at them). It all reminds me of EII tbh-perhaps IEE.
Really? I thought that every gamer...
oh right! Wrong assumption! He isn't as popular outside gaming circles as say pewds. Now that guy is just hyperactive and stuff. Too hyperactive for my taste-the same could apply to AngryJoe. Activity is always good, but have some grace, for mercy's sake!
Oh? What about her playing violent video games? I remember your opinion is that EII do NOT like these kinds of video games, from the other thread.
No. It will not help me understand how you type because what I have seen, so far, is all over the place and you can't articulate it. It is fine that it is just a vibe you get from Megan BUT you approach new members in a way that suggests you can help them find their type if they only make a video and check out your typing of video bloggers, when in fact you will not help them find their type. You will just give an impression like most do here (including myself) with little to back it up.
you want to understand better how introverted types differ from extraverted ones - check my lists, compare examples. There is no better method to understand how do I type.
If you need help understanding how to articulate why don't you study K4M's posts on typing... not that I think his are any more accurate than your's but maybe you will see what I mean by articulating your impressions. A lot of your "introverted" types appear to be extroverts. Perhaps you have a link that explains your idea of what an introvert and extrovert is? It can be in Russian even. I think I could find a way to understand a link written by someone else since you have trouble with this.
I think it is strange that you are so pushy for people to make a video (so you can type them) only to respond to the video with "INFP?" (for example).
You telling new members that a video is the only way to type is misleading and I would be pretty disappointed if I were new here and someone pushed me to make a video, while discounting all the information and effort put into the questionnaires, only to have them respond to the video with 4 letters and a "?".
My impression is that a lot of your typings are inaccurate, yet you misrepresent yourself as being someone who has accurate typings just so you can see videos. It wouldn't be such a big deal, to me, if you didn't go around telling everyone and their mother they are mistyped so they should make a video, following your guidelines, and implying your blogger list is in any way correct.
I see, well would you say that a girl humping the internet while spazzing out and practically licking her camera is typical of EII? Or that she likes violent shows and video games? I do not have a strong opinion on this girls type, btw, but if you are using her as some kind of benchmark for EII you should at least be able to say why. What nonverbal clues do you get from her? That should be easy to explain with a Russian to English dictionary.
I've pointed on a case when her behavior was far from typical of EII's. I'm sure Maritsa in not EII for different her behavior on the forum and by impressions from nonverbal behavior.
Using me as an example of bad understanding of my own type is kind of shady and deceptive since I have not changed or doubted my socionics type since I first joined the forum and reached a conclusion once I understood the basics. I have only stronger confidence in my type as I learn more. My type in socionices has always been IEI-0. Others suggest Fe or Ni subtype but I don't believe I have a static subtype. Ni base is Ni base and the subtypes describe behavior so both would fit me at different times about equally. If you are talking about when I had SLE sx/so then don't take that too serious. It was an experiment. I don't usually even have a type in my profile, other than enneagram, for my own reasons.It's common situation when people type themselves wrongly, for example you changed type in the profile. Hence, your understanding of types is rather bad if even your own type gave you doubts up to recent time. How to improve the situation is above.
Anyway...I think your video girl is most likely a sensor, probably not introverted from her videos. If introverted SEI>ESI
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I don't see IEI for her. IEI seem more languid, than she appears, in their videos. She looks very present and hyper. I liked her on "Supernatural"l but this particular youtube video was like nails on a chalkboard for me.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I've added pictures.
Philip DeFranco- ILE. The guy is extremely Fi-PoLR.
Main show: https://www.youtube.com/user/sxephil
Vlog: https://www.youtube.com/user/PhilipDeFranco
If you watch more, he is dismissive and mocking towards those that "are just looking to be offended". He refers to political correctness disparagingly. He expresses strongly that his points of view are his alone, and that he is open to constructive intellectual discourse in the comments, however impossible that may be on YouTube. He says what he wants and does so confidently, without considering how others may feel.
He also self-identifies as an introvert. Doesn't necessarily support ILE, but ILEs can come off as socially introverted. But maybe better for him would be saying that he devalues Fi.
For him, I'd say a very cynical Ti-ILE, shaped by a poor family situation growing up.
Not attempting Enneagram.
His body language suggests being an extrovert. He makes wild gestures while speaking, tends to use the whole arm, is active, energetic, and a bit disorganized behind-the-scenes.
In his "DeFranco Does" tours, he travels abroad to speak in a theater in front of large crowds of his fans. He seems to enjoy their attention and focus on him. Makes me think Fe-HA, because being liked seems important to him at least subconsciously.
Yes. Fi PolR is weird. It is not about saying personal stuff right at you. Interpersonally it is bad psychological distance. I have caused lot of mayhem with my mouth. People take impersonal matters personally. Like annoucing that christmas is just like holocaust for turkeys. On the flip slide I have pretty good capbilities when it comes to parody.
Nice collection. Where the SEE girls?
They are too corrupted by Chaos. lol. Main hope is on clean minds of novices.
Same as you may to type people, padawan, - intuitive impressions from nonverbal behavior. For example, some types a priori give you impressions of sympathy, trust, humaneness, while other opposite or mixed feelings. You know almost nothing about a human, but may to look several minutes and get these impressions. It's not absolute, it's probability, so most duals should give 'good' impressions, but may be not all duals.
Well, it's your typing list. The judgment of another American who understands his frames of reference is that he is ILE, but you don't have to think so.
Carry on.
Typically >70% are found "just really bad" in an opinion of other typer.
lacigreen - S
Trisha Paytas - mb ESFP
Hodgetwins - mb ESFP both
Vitaly Zdorovetskiy - ENFP, ESFP, ...
Onision - mb INFJ
T types prefer truth than feelings in more situations than F types.
Charlotte - mb ENTJ
Not specifically a vlogger but Charlotte, the British video journalist girl for Vice is one of the best examples of IEE-Ne ever.
A great example of an IEE's weird lapse in Fi is the part in the first one where she tells the Korean girl getting the surgery to look white that she still doesn't look white, lol.
I promise I'm not obsessed with Asia, I just watch hundreds of documentaries a year and these are the ones I've seen her in lol.
someday the grapes will be wine
and someday you will be mine
EII-Ne 2w3 - 9w1 - 7w8 so/sx
The plastic surgery Documentary set in Korea, by Vice, was fascinating.
How is it that you decided this girl is EII? How is she an introverted type?
You scolded Maritsa for not behaving as an EII for something she said that was pretty tame about an attractive pic in another thread and this girl is talking about humping the internet. I don't get your typing method at all.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
As in most cases, the main reason is my impression from nonverbal behavior. And there is nothing significant against EII for her. If you want to understand better how introverted types differ from extraverted ones - check my lists, compare examples. There is no better method to understand how do I type.
I've pointed on a case when her behavior was far from typical of EII's. I'm sure Maritsa in not EII for different her behavior on the forum and by impressions from nonverbal behavior. It's common situation when people type themselves wrongly, for example you changed type in the profile. Hence, your understanding of types is rather bad if even your own type gave you doubts up to recent time. How to improve the situation is above.You scolded Maritsa for not behaving as an EII for something she said
@Aylen
Sol you can't type and behavior is misleading. Writing a lot is not a behavior of an extrovert. If you continue this nonsense you won't talk to me.
Here, just as in any other conflict dyad, at first everything that happens is seemingly charming and tender. Fragile and delicate IEI, who with his or her modestly and softness is vaguely reminiscent of an EII, initially makes the most favorable impression on the LSE: "If you had seen the face of this person – it's the face of an angel!"
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I think it really depends on what the format is, and the manner.
It is perfectly clear that extroverts are just as able to use social media to make comments...posts...likes...retweets etc., and are just as able to frequently check up on such media. I would say actually that many clear extroverts are able to be in their element on the internet for example: they frequently contribute in real-time. Perhaps they are more likely to be inclined to brevity when they do comment, but this is just my perception...or, if not brevity exactly, then frequently frivolous. I would consider introverts in contrast...in general...to be reticent to posting frequently and/or "frivolously". They would perhaps be more incline to think about whether to post or not, and even if their messages are brief, they will generally spend a greater amount of energy in them, perhaps fine-tuning them...if their words are few, they more likely to be concise rather than purely "short".
When I looked at the type distribution of forum members two years ago, of those determinable, 60.7% were self-typed as introverts, and 39.3% were self-typed as extroverts.
Of the top 50 highest posters, I believe 31 (62.0%) self-type as introverts, and 19 (38.0%) self-type as extroverts.
The introverts have posted approximately 256,642 posts (58.9%), and the extroverts (41.1%) have posted approximately 179,452 posts. (I approximated @bg's post count as 30317).
This means that the average introvert in the top 50 posters has posted 8279 posts, and the average extrovert has posted 9445 posts. The average extrovert has therefore posted 1.141 times as much as the average introvert.
In addition, the average introvert has an average post rate of 2.529 posts a day, while the average extrovert has an average post rate of 3.189 posts per day. The average extrovert therefore has a post rate 1.261 times as much as the average introvert.
If to take into account that common typing match is near 15%, then many of these "introverts" may to be extraverts and vice versa. The real proportion may to be significantly different. I think there is more proportion of real extraverts among top posters by posts/day if to count only active days, not just days on the forum. 1.3, at least.
If to take comunication on the forum, the more important factors for typing to extravert is what about and how the one communicates, not just the quantity of messages and threads. Ego and valued functions seen in communication, influence on wich type will be supposed too. But to type with sure needs videointerview, anyway. In case impressions you've gotten from it fit to what you see on the forum - then you may be highly sure in the opinion.
As example, Aylen writes a lot on the forum too. But she writes more messages with deep, detailed material, less trashy. And without her video I'm not sure in E/I.
EII are often shy inward emotionally less expensive and reactive other than a mild smile. They often talk about people and their thoughts about them.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
ISFP
It's better to use another thread for discussions of those wich are not in my list. Like that or to create a separate thread for concrete blogger (as they are public persons in mass medias they are kind of famous).
What I think was above.
Like I said.