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Last edited by Sol; 08-07-2016 at 06:52 PM.
Um this is a little freaky (and idk, probably not type related) but i was just looking at this pepper spray at the store a few days ago, wondering whether it actually works. I dont recommend testing these this way though. That guy is lucky it wasn't too strong.Originally Posted by Sol
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
How have you succeeded in missing the Total Biscuit? Yeah he has very few live videos, I agree, but just LISTEN to him! He's always on about some potentials and how he sucks at Te etc(like in Sim City games-he flatout says he sucks at them, not that he dislikes them, but that he just sucks at them). It all reminds me of EII tbh-perhaps IEE.
I don't see IEI for her. IEI seem more languid, than she appears, in their videos. She looks very present and hyper. I liked her on "Supernatural"l but this particular youtube video was like nails on a chalkboard for me.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Really? I thought that every gamer...
oh right! Wrong assumption! He isn't as popular outside gaming circles as say pewds. Now that guy is just hyperactive and stuff. Too hyperactive for my taste-the same could apply to AngryJoe. Activity is always good, but have some grace, for mercy's sake!
I've added pictures.
Philip DeFranco- ILE. The guy is extremely Fi-PoLR.
Main show: https://www.youtube.com/user/sxephil
Vlog: https://www.youtube.com/user/PhilipDeFranco
Nice collection. Where the SEE girls?
They are too corrupted by Chaos. lol. Main hope is on clean minds of novices.
Same as you may to type people, padawan, - intuitive impressions from nonverbal behavior. For example, some types a priori give you impressions of sympathy, trust, humaneness, while other opposite or mixed feelings. You know almost nothing about a human, but may to look several minutes and get these impressions. It's not absolute, it's probability, so most duals should give 'good' impressions, but may be not all duals.
Oh another thing came to my mind:
1. How will I understand what they're saying? I mean it's not only about how they say something, it's about what they say as well. It's not only with Russian, but if someone is speaking about clothes or about furniture or things like that, I'll space out. No I won't. I'll just shut the video down .
2. How can I trust your evaluations? So that I don't get a wrong vibe about a person who is actually not the type it's written. That's just it with socionics-there is no official body to trust.
3. I just realised that internet is so stupid. I don't have the willpower to watch stupid stuff tyvm! Unless it interests me.
It's not needed to type by nonverbal behavior. In random videos they say not much useful to type anyway.
In the list of actors are many English ones and you may find their interviews on the video hosting. Some bloggers are English too.
You may switch off the sound where they speak about furniture. You'll loose voice intonations wich may be useful for impressions.if someone is speaking about clothes or about furniture or things like that, I'll space out. No I won't. I'll just shut the video down
You better to be a man and hold when they talk about clothes or even weather.
It's your subjective choice, as noone today has objective proof he types good. You may try and maybe you'll get something useful from this. Or you may type people yourself only. Or use examples from someone other.How can I trust your evaluations?
Note. % of accuracy in my bloggers list is higher than in actors list for people not in galleries, as actors list was compiled for 8 years and needs revision.
This stuff is suitable to check your type.I don't have the willpower to watch stupid stuff tyvm!
If you watch more, he is dismissive and mocking towards those that "are just looking to be offended". He refers to political correctness disparagingly. He expresses strongly that his points of view are his alone, and that he is open to constructive intellectual discourse in the comments, however impossible that may be on YouTube. He says what he wants and does so confidently, without considering how others may feel.
He also self-identifies as an introvert. Doesn't necessarily support ILE, but ILEs can come off as socially introverted. But maybe better for him would be saying that he devalues Fi.
For him, I'd say a very cynical Ti-ILE, shaped by a poor family situation growing up.
Not attempting Enneagram.
His body language suggests being an extrovert. He makes wild gestures while speaking, tends to use the whole arm, is active, energetic, and a bit disorganized behind-the-scenes.
In his "DeFranco Does" tours, he travels abroad to speak in a theater in front of large crowds of his fans. He seems to enjoy their attention and focus on him. Makes me think Fe-HA, because being liked seems important to him at least subconsciously.
More meaningful are facial expressions, intuitive impressions from them. Mentioned hands wide gestures can be easily imitation of some other and are less important anyway.
He may enjoy talking with people who like him as any normal human, for whom he's authority, who are source of his income. And he needs to express good mood to be pleasant.In his "DeFranco Does" tours, he travels abroad to speak in a theater in front of large crowds of his fans. He seems to enjoy their attention
Well, it's your typing list. The judgment of another American who understands his frames of reference is that he is ILE, but you don't have to think so.
Carry on.
Yes. Fi PolR is weird. It is not about saying personal stuff right at you. Interpersonally it is bad psychological distance. I have caused lot of mayhem with my mouth. People take impersonal matters personally. Like annoucing that christmas is just like holocaust for turkeys. On the flip slide I have pretty good capbilities when it comes to parody.
Not specifically a vlogger but Charlotte, the British video journalist girl for Vice is one of the best examples of IEE-Ne ever.
A great example of an IEE's weird lapse in Fi is the part in the first one where she tells the Korean girl getting the surgery to look white that she still doesn't look white, lol.
I promise I'm not obsessed with Asia, I just watch hundreds of documentaries a year and these are the ones I've seen her in lol.
someday the grapes will be wine
and someday you will be mine
EII-Ne 2w3 - 9w1 - 7w8 so/sx
Typically >70% are found "just really bad" in an opinion of other typer.
lacigreen - S
Trisha Paytas - mb ESFP
Hodgetwins - mb ESFP both
Vitaly Zdorovetskiy - ENFP, ESFP, ...
Onision - mb INFJ
T types prefer truth than feelings in more situations than F types.
Charlotte - mb ENTJ
You may create a typing thread with your video-interview.
Have checked now, - works. Statistics shows >10 people visited today.
On the title page "[English]" link leads to English section. In case of problems, reloading of a page may help sometimes.
The list on the site needs hard revision. I recommend to trust more to versions in galleries as they passed the procedure.
We understand types and typing method in similar way only if have typing match >50%.
If you have interest to my versions would be good you checked for several people of every type (>=5 men, >=5 women) with >=3 video-interviews for every typed example among those, interviews should be >10 min each. If during this checking you'll agree with most my opinions, then we have chance to have typing match on not bad level. Also you may train your typing skills on my examples to make the match higher.
I made two cross-typers match experiments by videos on other forum, - they allow to identify typing matches between typers. If I'll gather >16 English-speaking video-bloggers (not typed previously on forums, wich give me sure opinions about their types, have channels with materials of acceptable quality for typing) then I may do similar experiment here to understand how bad things are. As I find such bloggers rather randomly, to prepare the experiment may take a time - a year or less/more.
> I can see what you're emphasizing in your typings, but don't know what to make of it so far or how to describe it.
Intuitive impressions you get from nonverbal behavior may be described by words in ordinary descriptions of functions, types, intertype relations. You just feel these traits directly, by intuitive associations. You may feel traits of different types - so you need to choose wich side is stronger and more correct.
As any method this one needs training to make such associations more clear and stable, less controversing to theory (I use only basic theory, no doubtful RD). You may mistake and later change the opinion about types after you get more data and typing skills become better. As intuitive-nonverbal method does not need a close contact, it may be used to type any people near you IRL and then check how your intuitive version correlates with their behavior.
As method is based on intuition it goes unconsciously, so I can't describe details. To describe by words nonberbal behavior is hard also. I get impressions wich are rather close to words in descriptions of types and IR.How would you personally describe the Si/Ne valuing presence I refer to in my initial post?
For example, Si types give associations with tender care, comfort, cleanness, Ne - those who have hunger or seek such things. Ne associations - the ones who understand things, have more clear eyes, not such smoky as Ni types. Those people should not give significant associations with Se and Ni types, or I keep doubts. Plus associations general for sensory or intuitive types, like intuitive ones think more complexly than me, have more living imagination, but are less linked to their body, clumsy. How this fits to impressions from 2nd function (Si can combine only with Fe/Te, etc). Something like. How a version fits to IR is also checked, something from types descriptions related to model A and other.
Last edited by Sol; 11-23-2015 at 10:15 PM.
2 main reasons. 1) ESTJ maybe one of types wich are more rare among actors. 2) ESTJ has gallery and hence passed revision when I removed some % of versions as needing additional check or wrong, while types without galleries had no such cleaning.
Other reasons why quantity of types in the list is different:
- I have different experience IRL with different types - some types were in more quantity among close familiars, so it's easier for me to type them. I put in the list only when my confidence in a version is above some level.
- Representatives of some types are more interesting for me, take more attention and hence I think about their type more.
- Types with galleries made longer ago have more re-checked (several times) examples, so that types have less versions kept in "still doubt" section than types with galleries made later. Public version is only a part of my list.
- In smaller lists people use more % of versions taken from others, so factors above are less expressed there. The may think like "now I need some ESTJ" and then remember several from books/sites/forums like previously made with other types. Also small lists may have quantities closer to plain as an author have no aim to place any sure version he has.
It's common, as there is no objective proof someone types good, and anyone has wrong opinion about type in >50% (>70% typically) cases from point of any other. You've just prefered lame statistics rationalization for this situation. There is no base to trust anyone today besides yourself and those wich have good real match with you (while everyone has it <50%). Real means match when you did not know the opinion of someone other beforhand, as in other case your conformism affects.so I don't trust
I suppose, if you'll type yourself correctly this will reduce such opinion. According to your IR impressions from types examples, statistics speculations and surplus snobbery, - INFJ is doubtful for you.I could say I'm unique in many ways
If you are interested in truth and use, but not just gathering of different fantasies, you need to understand good theories wich you study. To do this in Socionics it needs to correctly type yourself, at least. If you'll make video-interview it will be possible to type you.I am interested in different theories of classifying relationship strength and potential.
Last edited by Sol; 11-25-2015 at 10:17 AM.
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I've added several factors about "statistics proof of terrible inaccuracy" in the previous message. So they were in one place for those who is interested why the list has significant differenece of types quantities when IRL any type is expected to be near 1/16.
As for you, - check your type.
The plastic surgery Documentary set in Korea, by Vice, was fascinating.
How is it that you decided this girl is EII? How is she an introverted type?
You scolded Maritsa for not behaving as an EII for something she said that was pretty tame about an attractive pic in another thread and this girl is talking about humping the internet. I don't get your typing method at all.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
As in most cases, the main reason is my impression from nonverbal behavior. And there is nothing significant against EII for her. If you want to understand better how introverted types differ from extraverted ones - check my lists, compare examples. There is no better method to understand how do I type.
I've pointed on a case when her behavior was far from typical of EII's. I'm sure Maritsa in not EII for different her behavior on the forum and by impressions from nonverbal behavior. It's common situation when people type themselves wrongly, for example you changed type in the profile. Hence, your understanding of types is rather bad if even your own type gave you doubts up to recent time. How to improve the situation is above.You scolded Maritsa for not behaving as an EII for something she said