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    This dude is a clear SLE to me, I've always loved this song (whaddya guys think):


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    True Love by Pink is about SLE/IEI duality:

    "Sometimes I hate every single stupid word you say,
    Sometimes I wanna slap you in your whole face.
    There's no one quite like you, you push all my buttons down,
    I know life would suck without you.

    At the same time I wanna hug you, I wanna wrap my hands around your neck.
    You're an asshole but I love you, and you make me so mad I ask myself
    Why I'm still here, or where could I go? You're the only love I've ever known, but I hate you, I really hate you, so much I think it must be...

    True love true love...."
    In any other quadra such a relationship would be called disfunctional, but in Beta...
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    True Love by Pink is about SLE/IEI duality:



    In any other quadra such a relationship would be called disfunctional, but in Beta...
    Huh... seems like, sometimes.

    Dysfunctional is mentally and emotionally exhausting though and most SLE relationships I have had were healthy but...

     

    Thankfully neither lasted long enough to do any real damage. I think.

    Oh and since I am E4, ugh.



    Ohhh, I miss the misery!

    I've been a mess since you stayed,
    I've been a wreck since you changed,
    Don't let me get in your way,
    I miss the lies and the pain,
    The fights that keep us awake-ake-ake
    I'm tellin you!

    I miss the bad things,
    The way you hate me,
    I miss the screaming,
    The way that you blame me!
    Miss the phone calls,
    When it's your fault,
    I miss the late nights,
    Don't miss you at all!
    I like the kick in the face,
    And the things you do to me!
    I love the way that it hurts!
    I don't miss you, I miss the misery!

    I've tried but I just can't take it,
    I'd rather fight than just fake it (cause I like it
    Rough),
    You know that I've had enough,
    I dare ya to call my bluff,
    Can't take too much of a good thing
    I'm tellin you!

    I miss the bad things,
    The way you hate me,
    I miss the screaming,
    The way that you blame me!
    Miss the phone calls,
    When it's your fault,
    I miss the late nights,
    Don't miss you at all!
    I like the kick in the face,
    And the things you do to me!
    I love the way that it hurts!
    I don't miss you, I miss the misery!

    Just know that I'll make you hurt,
    (I miss the lies and the pain what you did to me)
    When you tell me you'll make it worse
    (I'd rather fight all night than watch the TV)
    I hate that feelin inside
    You tell me how hard you'll try
    But when we're at our worst
    I miss the misery

    I miss the bad things,
    The way you hate me,
    I miss the screaming,
    The way that you blame me.

    I miss the rough sex,
    Leaves me a mess,
    I miss the feeling of pains in my chest!
    Miss the phone calls,
    When it's your fault,
    I miss the late nights,
    Don't miss you at all!
    I like the kick in the face,
    And the things you do to me!
    I love the way that it hurts!
    I don't miss you, I miss the misery!



    My experience with SLE-Se friends and exes over the years is more like this:



    Se seems more playful, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    True Love by Pink is about SLE/IEI duality:



    In any other quadra such a relationship would be called disfunctional, but in Beta...
    Pink is SEE, not SLE, and the tune is about a dysfunctional relationship.

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    Radiohead is not Beta either. (alpha - delta)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ananke View Post
    Pink is SEE, not SLE
    No she definitively is NOT SEE!! Period.
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    This song is pretty old but I think it captures the idea of "dysfunction" that people associate with SLE-IEI, better than songs that are too literal and wordy, like Pink's


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ananke View Post
    Pink is SEE, not SLE, and the tune is about a dysfunctional relationship.

    I want Pink for my Activity Partner, pLeazzzzzzzzz.

    She doesn't make my Fi-radar go off.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    I want Pink for my Activity Partner, pLeazzzzzzzzz.

    She doesn't make my Fi-radar go off.
    Just enjoy her without needing her to be a specific type. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    LOL, I used to use to think this song described me and my SLE ex perfectly. He agreed.
    .


    Think this is the better pink song for SLE/IEI duality.

    Also I think you've rose-colored glasses that relationship a bit...(given what we've heard here) ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post


    Why you do that??? You didn't even read my post, did you? I posted this song in this thread. Weird when that happens. I thought you were just mocking me when you did it before but you don't even notice. FU I am not reading your posts anymore either.

     


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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
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    I relate to pretty much everything you say here. Half my exes are on my FB and some of us still end our conversations with, "love you". I don't say it first though because I am always trying to be sensitive to them, and whatever relationship they are currently in or feelings they still have, but since I still feel love (not in love) for them I have no problems saying it back. Most of them are musicians playing in bands and they invite me to their shows a lot but I avoid that because it usually leads to some kind of trouble.

    Emails, pm and phone calls are fine. I always tell new relationships up front that I am friends with exes and if they can't handle it then they know to get out before they get in too deep. I do not let my exes interfere in current relationships though, so I do keep a certain psychological distance. Sometimes they just want to check up on me and see how I am doing. I don't get any sense of jealousy from them usually but they have joked around and told me to ditch other boyfriends and come back to them. It is all light-hearted. I try to leave relationships on good terms. I never like to burn my bridges and I have had exes help me out in many situations later because I left it on good terms.

    I don't think it is specific to duality but may be specific to certain personality types who are sensitive to other people's feelings and don't like to have bad vibes with others.
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    I don't know what people type her but this song seems fitting.


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    Everything by this band, just watch the music video and you can see SLE IEI in action:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdCu8uXQ7k

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMarquee View Post
    Everything by this band, just watch the music video and you can see SLE IEI in action:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdCu8uXQ7k
    That was so much fun! Thanks.

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    cute <3


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMarquee View Post
    Everything by this band
    Amazing. I watched them for three days straight. Beautiful.

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    not exactly duality but i love this song and it also screams SLE to me:


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    My girl likes to party all the time. Party all the time. Party all the tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmeee.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMarquee View Post
    Everything by this band, just watch the music video and you can see SLE IEI in action:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdCu8uXQ7k


    I don't see it at all. Is the dude SLE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMarquee View Post
    Everything by this band, just watch the music video and you can see SLE IEI in action:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdCu8uXQ7k
    Holy shit. At best I was expecting some decent songs from this thread, but this hits the nail on the fucking head.

    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    I don't see it at all. Is the dude SLE?
    The guy is SLE and the girl is an IEI.

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    Omg ... I fffffloved that July Talk vid - Toronto, Canada represent! Woo. I'm gonna be seeing them soon actually. I never knew they could be a dual pair.. but it's adorable and makes me want my own


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    Every song is an SLE/IEI duality song to me ;_;
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    It's hard to find a love through every shade of grey.

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    IEI guy, SLE girl. Or it honestly could apply to any Ixxx male and Exxx female pair.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMarquee View Post
    Everything by this band, just watch the music video and you can see SLE IEI in action:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdCu8uXQ7k
    I just wanted to say I saw them live last weekend and they are literally the EPITOME of sexual chemistry and COOL. Wow. I strive for a relationship like that. Apparently they have been dating for a long time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMarquee View Post
    Everything by this band, just watch the music video and you can see SLE IEI in action:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdCu8uXQ7k
    Quote Originally Posted by maithili View Post


    I don't see it at all. Is the dude SLE?
    Yeah, it's cuz the dude is LSI and Leah Fay is SEI. The song is actually about benefit relationship :/ It's not doing much for me either, though the LSI dude has one sexy grungy voice.

    What was interesting in that video is how rounded and conserved Leah was with her dancing, so different from IEIs, especially Fe subtypes who show greater degrees of freedom in how they go about the dance floor and demonstrate some 'edgier' moves.

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    SLE aggressor female + IEI victim male

    The video also incorporates the concept of "duality," represented by the yin and yang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Yeah, it's cuz the dude is LSI and Leah Fay is SEI. The song is actually about benefit relationship :/ It's not doing much for me either, though the LSI dude has one sexy grungy voice.

    What was interesting in that video is how rounded and conserved Leah was with her dancing, so different from IEIs, especially Fe subtypes who show greater degrees of freedom in how they go about the dance floor and demonstrate some 'edgier' moves.
    I doubt Leah is SEI.. I honestly think they're duals, EIE + LSI or SLE + IEI.. they are the most Beta band I've heard in a while.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink View Post


    SLE aggressor female + IEI victim male

    The video also incorporates the concept of "duality," represented by the yin and yang.

    This was cute!! I actually do agree that even with such snippets it does look like SLE and IEI.. IEI males are so adorbs haha..


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    I don't know his type but he looks a lot like my EIE ex. I still like this for a duality song though.



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    Lana Del Rey - Fe type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Lana Del Rey - Fe type
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    There is no logical or experimental basis for these plus/minus. Bullshit like Reinin's dichs.
    Maybe I am misunderstanding you use of "-"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Maybe I am misunderstanding you use of "-"?
    it's a dash, not minus

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    Quote Originally Posted by limping bird View Post
    I don't know Pink's type... Se base yeah, but strong Ji sub because she has this heavier feeling, solidity less strict than Ij less wild than Ep

    To me she seems beta enough, and her husband has always looked very IEI lol. but maybe this is semiduality instead







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    Hahah man I don't get it with her, yet she's the one of the benchmark female SLE (supposedly) celebrities referenced on this forum a lot. I dunno like.. I see how it's typical Se behaviour and whatnot but I don't get a vibe of duality or mirror with her. I also think her husband is not IEI.. he seems pretty lacking in Fe in that video, and I believe I remember some interviews of him seeming Ixxp for sure, but maybe SLI. Then again, I've never understood Madonna as SLE either. I guess the obvious "masculinity" they exude turns me off .. I would like to see some feminine SLE examples.


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    Quote Originally Posted by limping bird View Post
    Agree — I was just trying to vi the guy (fk he is cute).. he looks EIE to me ... the girl could be LSI or IEI or another merry type, but looks a lot more reserved so I lean towards introvert (which is ofc bullshit)

    if duals, guessing EIE guy and LSI girl. and yeah, she doesn't look SEI to me

    I can see this as well, .. most definitely just BETA I've seen them live.. freakin' amazing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    This song fits with my current Beta break up (EIE/IEI). I wonder if IEI's have a tendency to naturally fall into the emotional punching bag role, then they just pick up and vanish when they've had enough. It's been a pattern with my relationships, and it always leaves the other person in shambles.

    I'm not sure if this just my experience, but Ni types can be especially cruel with words when they're hurting. They have the ability to cut you where they know it will hurt. I've seen this behavior in EIE's, IEI's, ILI's and LIE's.
    I think it is common but it's more a unhealthy expression of these traits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I'm not sure if this just my experience, but Ni types can be especially cruel with words when they're hurting. They have the ability to cut you where they know it will hurt. I've seen this behavior in EIE's, IEI's, ILI's and LIE's.
    Hurting by words is not Ni specific. All types may do it. Fe types do it more often. N types may do it with more fantasy. Nothing special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    I would like to see some feminine SLE examples.
    Taylor Momsen, maybe Amanda Seyfried? But I type purely by VI because I can't watch interviews and anyway, show business

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