YOU KNOW WHAT SATURDAY IS (type the twelfth Doctor)
This Saturday Series 8 (Or Season 34 depending on how you look at it) starts! Here are a couple of trailers (obviously there are some minor spoilers in them):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trCFBuDqvII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivqZTq5u6Y
Obviously it's too soon to tell, but this Doctor seems more Fi focused than the past few did, talking about doing something about past mistakes and "am I a good man" and so forth.
AND OMG AT WHO'S PLAYING HIS RIVAL THIS SEASON!!!
It's quite amazing how ever since David Tennant left I kept thinking they couldn't improve or match him but in each case they seem to have managed it. It seems Peter Capaldi will be something completely removed from his Malcolm Tucker role which is possibly a relief- and so will not just be an easy shoe-in lightweight doctor.
The rival...is that the role played by Michelle Gomez? She's totally crazy and should be very good at a role like that
...hopefully I will start to really like Jenna Coleman as his companion / assistant / helper...I'm still missing the Amelia Pond stuff.
Yeah! <3Originally Posted by Subteigh
It's quite amazing how ever since David Tennant left I kept thinking they couldn't improve or match him but in each case they seem to have managed it. It seems Peter Capaldi will be something completely removed from his Malcolm Tucker role which is possibly a relief
Nope.The rival...is that the role played by Michelle Gomez? She's totally crazy and should be very good at a role like that
Yeah. I've never heard anyone say they're a huge Clara fan. If she had followed Martha (who I feel is underrated, btw) she would have had a much better shot at meeting with fan admiration, but the Ponds are a very tough act to follow. Also, I've never really been impressed with the chemistry between her and 11. I'm curious to see if it'll be better with 12, but I'm reluctant to believe it will. We'll see....hopefully I will start to really like Jenna Coleman as his companion / assistant / helper...I'm still missing the Amelia Pond stuff.
When are they going to make his companion a crazy little Asian girl? Loud with an accent, impulsive, funny... I wanna see it. Maybe not with 12 though.
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I read that this is Clara's last series, so hopefully we'll get a great companion next time around.Yeah. I've never heard anyone say they're a huge Clara fan. If she had followed Martha (who I feel is underrated, btw) she would have had a much better shot at meeting with fan admiration, but the Ponds are a very tough act to follow. Also, I've never really been impressed with the chemistry between her and 11. I'm curious to see if it'll be better with 12, but I'm reluctant to believe it will. We'll see.
When are they going to make his companion a crazy little Asian girl? Loud with an accent, impulsive, funny... I wanna see it. Maybe not with 12 though.
And yay, so excited for Series 8!!! 3 days to go!
I reckon Clara's character could quite easily be salvaged and improved but if it's her last series, then what is done is done
I would like there to be more use of characters and scenarios like Madame Vestra - I mean with more emphasis on historic times rather than the more spacey-wacey side.
I think I've only seen about recent advert for DW on TV - I knew it was coming but quite astonished that the Americans are getting it at the same time. Things are far better co-ordinated nowadays!
They want people watch it on BBC America instead of just downloading it.
I also always thought it would be cool to have companions from other planets or other times. That would be harder to write though.
My top wish for the show is that they'd run several series at once. There's no reason the 12th, 20th, and 37th doctors, for example, couldn't have shows running all at the same time. However, I could see it bombing if not done well, plus it commits the writers to certain things. (Though Moffat could get out of any continuity issue I think.)
I don't have TV, so I don't know when I'll get a good look at the next one.
I liked the 9th doctor (not sure about his type), loved the 10th (IEE) and hated the 11th. Matt Smith was an emofag, with all my respects to both emos and homosexuals. Hated him and his companions, specially the self-centered narcissistic Amy Pond. 11th seemed EIE to me due to his unnatural emotionality (excessive, histrionic). I think Amy was something around SEI-Fe (although I could be biased). Best companion was Rose (SEE-Fi).
Capaldi V.I. as a LII (Ne subt, specifically) and so he behaves. Even as Malcolm Tucker, which superficially seems more gamma-ish, he was more like an energetic and neurotic LII (E1, maybe?) than a true LIE (no Se implies no real intimidating skills; right, General Soprano?). I suspect his doctor will also be LII (or at least will have a LII aura), due to the actor. I'm not sure if I would like the result (because a "LII" doctor could be too serious for the character, nothing against LIIs themselves), but no Matt and no Amy is always good.
I'm thinking Ti ego so far. He's a bit like... an edgy ILE. He spent a good chunk of time adjusting to his new body though. We'll see.
I haven't seen S08E05 yet, but I really like S08E04!
I was actually thinking ILI for Twelve, but Clara seems Fe dominant so probably not. Well, I guess EIE and ILI could work. I think @Subteigh makes a very good point about the difficulty in typing Doctors even when we have much more to go on. Part of that is because of contradictory behavior. And then there's the thing about how fictional characters aren't actually people and therefore don't actually process information, so they obviously don't really have types. But anyways. Twelve seems introverted and either logical or a super cranky ESI.
yeah. for me, that was one of the best ones ever of the new series (episode 4).
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Not know his type yet - he is too busy IMO trying to find himself before I have a go!
@Joy
This Doctor shows very clear examples of positivistand yet his role as the Caretaker / Professor / Space Dad combined with the constant referral to the Endless Sorrow of his thoughts even compared to the recent few Doctors perhaps gives a IJ and/or a
feel at times. (he seems a lot more introvertedly reflective than the more recent ones).
It seems like a similar problem with all the past attempts this forum had at typing the character of House, although I think in the case of the Doctor, the
.Personality
Capaldi has said that his Doctor is "more alien than he's been in a while." He has stated that unlike his previous two incarnations who cared about humans and tried to understand them, this incarnation "doesn’t quite understand human beings or really care very much about their approval.” Jenna Coleman said of this Doctor, "He’s more removed, you can't quite access him in the same way", referring to the way you could with the more friendly accessible previous incarnation.[30] Capaldi also specifically requested that the Doctor will not flirt with his companion the way his previous incarnation did.[27] He has also been described as a "total adrenaline junkie". Steven Moffat has said of this Doctor, "He's a much fiercer, madder, less reliable Doctor".[31] "He’s not as immediately approachable and he’s not necessarily looking for your approval, when he says ‘Wait here, I’ll be back’, you’re not absolutely convinced... what he’s not doing is reassuring you very much.”[32] Mark Gatiss said that Capaldi's Doctor was "sort of Tom Baker, Jon Pertwee and even Christopher Eccleston style...it’s someone who’s not immediately going to be your best friend and can be quite abrupt and rude.”[33] Moffat added to this analysis of the character by saying, “He has a tremendous ability with throwaway humor and a lot of it is around the fact that sometimes he is terribly rude. I think kids will think he is the rude Doctor [...] You might want to cuddle him but he really will resist.”[34] It has been said that part of the Doctor's personality will share “a certain acid wit” of Malcolm Tucker, the role Peter Capaldi is most famous for, "specifically the attitude, the wisecracks and the energy...he can be edgy, volatile and dangerous".[35][36][37] Capaldi has stated that all of the previous actors who had played the doctor were channeled in his portrayal[38] and that his particular influences were Hartnell, Pertwee and Davison.[36] He has been described as an "older, fiercer, trickier Doctor".[39]
In spite of his darker personality, Capaldi has said that the Doctor is still, "funny, joyful, passionate, emphatic, and fearless." While Jenna Coleman added that this time, the Doctor is more "enigmatic, mysterious, complex, worn, and unmannered," when compared to his immediate two predecessors. Steven Moffat joked that he's, "more Scottish than last time."
I have no idea at this point. It's possible that I just can't properly process this atm. (exhausted from packing to move)This Doctor shows very clear examples of positivist
It seems like a similar problem with all the past attempts this forum had at typing the character of House, although I think in the case of the Doctor, the
I think Clara seems more ESE though?
so, um...
I think the 12th doctor is like a negativist yet extroverted and irrational NT type (which doesn't exist IRL!!), capaldi seems IEE.
clara and jenna coleman are both ESE i think.
He's not really a negativist though. A pessimist, yes.
(I'm actually quite liking Clara as a character now, although this may partly be because Episode 6 was particularly awesome and because I'm already forgetting how great the Amy (and Rory) episodes were).
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Moffat also went to university in Glasgow.
. But she played the role absolutely brilliantly in this final episode. the "I'm nuts!" thing might have been a bit much, but somehow it did fit/call back to Simm's manic Master. I was totally sold on Missy as the new master by the end.