Some kind of something : need your help to type a lonely soul

[Persephone]

Hello,

I've been reading you since a while. Now time to come out of the shadow and step into the light.
Please guide me in typing myself. I am a bit confused and would like to get sure where I stand.
I am very into personality development and work a lot with myself as there is always a possibility to progress.

Besides average Internet and books discoveries (read a lot), I already experienced an intense psychoanalysis (Freud), 2 sessions with a psychologist (during several months each) and average weekly conversations with my mother who is actually a family coach and psychotherapist.

Ask me anything.
Thank you for your time and attention.

[Aylen]

Since you have been reading for a while, which quadra do you feel you would be most comfortable in?

[Persephone]

Since you have been reading for a while, which quadra do you feel you would be most comfortable in?

Thank you for dropping by.
Your question is really complicated for me.
When I was younger (like teen and early or mid 20s), I thought I was Beta.
Now that I am in my mid 30s and I am a lot more confident in what I might be, I'd think I'd be some kind of Alpha species (last 3-4 years).
Yes I know, nothing in common.

[Persephone]

If I attach a few pictures, would it help?

[IBTL]

If I attach a few pictures, would it help?

perhaps

[Aylen]

You look similar to Lana Del Rey. I couldn't VI to save my life though. There is a thread about her. Not sure what they typed her. It was probably a lot of different types since I have not seen much consensus in the famous typing threads.. I just recognize similarities in your features..hair.

[Persephone]

You look similar to Lana Del Rey. I couldn't VI to save my life though. There is a thread about her. Not sure what they typed her. It was probably a lot of different types since I have not seen much consensus in the famous typing threads.. I just recognize similarities in your features..hair.

There is something oddly sad and mysterious in this lady.. Thank you for your comparison.

[consentingadult]

There is something oddly sad and mysterious in this lady.

It's just a facade to hide that there is nothing to hide.

Anyway, your photos seem to give off an Ni vibe, I think IEI>ILI, but I don't like going by photos. Can you perhaps post a video? Use that to tell us something (anything) about your work.

[Persephone]

It's just a facade to hide that there is nothing to hide.

Anyway, your photos seem to give off an Ni vibe, I think IEI>ILI, but I don't like going by photos. Can you perhaps post a video? Use that to tell us something (anything) about your work.

...

[Amber]

Thanks for your output. I created a short video, hope it helps.

I love your accent. You look a bit like Fiona Apple, too. You're very beautiful btw. Ni-Se goes without saying for me. For types I'd say IEI-Ni or ILI-Ni. And even ESI-Fi would seem possible.

[Creepy-theticalanti]

Thanks for your output. I created a short video, hope it helps.

SEI. Final typing for you for now.

I finally got my new laptop with audio up and running, so I can watch the video and hear you as well. So I can finally do a bit of analysis:

In the first video, looking down and pausing between expressed/spoken thoughts points to Introversion in general, which others have seen; and the meandering flow of thoughts is also more indicative of Ip temperament over Ij. Ijs are more even-flowing in their thoughts.

About 1:30, you seem to be searching for Ne, alternative possibilities to express what you were trying to see.

Throughout the video, different subtle body movements remind me of others SEIs. This part is tough for me to explain, as it is subjective. When you look down when you remember things, trying to recall something specific, is typical of Si-leading. Both SEI and SLI have a greater tendency to do this, imo, while other personality types are more likely to look up when remembering something.

SEI becomes a lot clearer actually in your 2nd video, 'Typing'. There, you allude to many different things which generally point to Si-valuing and Se-devaluing - talking about your sleep and how rested you feel, doing a video without makeup because 'oh well', etc. Talking about being 'tired', doing the video "with a smile" (to brighten the mood) = Fe-creative.

From 3 minutes to about 3:45, when answering the question about religion, you seemed to be seeking a Ti-consistent system of beliefs. And with the slightly more hesitation here, I would think you come across more like an Introverted Ethical type as opposed to an Introverted Logical type who would be greatly more incisive in their views.

Overall you give a vibe of relaxing, calming, positive, and playful. This is very consistent with SEI over other types. I don't see Ni much in your words and Te-harsh criticism is lacking. My ILI original typing from VI was off. You come across more gentle. Definitely an introverted Sensor.

You actually remind me a lot of an old user named Aivo. She self-typed as SEI for a very long time before switching to IEI, and some people still suspected LII. She definitely seemed to hold more Alpha values though.

I would say Alpha Introvert, and definitely leaning toward SEI, with some chance still of LII.

If you're wondering how you can reconcile the idea of losing objects while being a Sensor, I've known of several Si-leading types, both SEI and SLI, who tend to do this. They often get preoccupied with their thoughts and their own inner worlds, with Se-ignoring they tend to disregard scanning the external world and can forget about things. They don't so much lose them or misplace them like someone with weak Si would, who might be unable to track them, but they just seem to forget about them & disregard them, which can cause things to get lost.

So my vote is SEI.

@Reficulris, sleeze embraced.

[Persephone]

You look Ni/Se-valuing for sure.

I want to say you come across introverted. But then you also seemed sad—or maybe just tired. So you might still be an extrovert.

I'm slightly inclined to T>F. If only because you don't appear to emote much, and because your politeness comes off neutral & overly proper, lacking the nuances of a more 'natural' disposition.

You seem to look down and/or to the left a lot, whatever that might suggest.

ILI, LSI, IEI, ESI, or LIE seem possible.

Thanks.
I am tired as hell, you are right, and no make up = zombie face, expressions and voice.
Also nothing to emote about and usually am louder than that, especially with people I know.
Videos are definitely not the natural disposition to expect from me, that's for sure... But politeness is prio in any case, just part of my education.

[Amber]

You look similar to Lana Del Rey. I couldn't VI to save my life though. There is a thread about her. Not sure what they typed her. It was probably a lot of different types since I have not seen much consensus in the famous typing threads.. I just recognize similarities in your features..hair.

I type Lana ESI-Fi. I agree she also has something of that vibe, but Lana plays the naughty Lolita a bit more.

[blackburry]

I like that you captioned one of your pictures "british." so posh.
You absolutely do look similiar to Lena del rey and Vera farmiga both introverted Fe types.


I vote IEI.

[Persephone]

I like that you captioned one of your pictures "british." so posh.
You absolutely do look similiar to Lena del rey and Vera farmiga both introverted Fe types.


I vote IEI.

Thank you. It was in British Museum and there were a lot of people.. just got me stressed out.

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

hellu LostInDreams =} u r a lovely person

what do you think of your self-characterization as a "lonely soul"? do you think positively or negatively of it? is it something you want to shake off or grow into ?
thanks

[Persephone]

hellu LostInDreams =} u r a lovely person

what do you think of your self-characterization as a "lonely soul"? do you think positively or negatively of it? is it something you want to shake off or grow into ?
thanks

That was a nice compliment, thank you.

I am a lonely soul as I have always been apart.
I used to think negatively about when I was a teen or in my 20s. I do not click with people easily.
At school, I was a bookwarm. At college, I strived for intellectual exchanges. I am a knowledge gatherer.
Do not even know how to explain. I inspire some kind of intellectual connection with people and it happens almost never.
In romantic relationship, I need that exceptional brain food mixed with unexplained soul connection and physical attraction.
I am perfectionistic in everything I do. Hard with people and even harder with myself.
Now that I am older, I am just aware that I am the only person that will be there for me till the very end. I accept.

[Park]

That was a nice compliment, thank you.

I am a lonely soul as I have always been apart.
I used to think negatively about when I was a teen or in my 20s. I do not click with people easily.
At school, I was a bookwarm. At college, I strived for intellectual exchanges. I am a knowledge gatherer.
Do not even know how to explain. I inspire some kind of intellectual connection with people and it happens almost never.
In romantic relationship, I need that exceptional brain food mixed with unexplained soul connection and physical attraction.
I am perfectionistic in everything I do. Hard with people and even harder with myself.
Now that I am older, I am just aware that I am the only person that will be there for me till the very end. I accept.

Go easy on yourself, bunny cheeks. Your prince will come... someday. After all, this is a dating site.

[Persephone]

Go easy on yourself, bunny cheeks. Your prince will come... someday. After all, this is a dating site.

1. I am not here for the dating purpose. How gross.
2. We are not that tight for lovely nicknames. Please hold a bit yourself.
3. I am a big girl and smart just enough to know that there are no princes out there, have quite a bit of boors around me.
4. I strive to do and to be better and thus deserve the best.
5. I am also polite in any situation so I will wish you a nice day.

[Park]

1. I am not here for the dating purpose. How gross.
2. We are not that tight for lovely nicknames. Please hold a bit yourself.
3. I am a big girl and smart just enough to know that there are no princes out there, have quite a bit of boors around me.
4. I strive to do and to be better and thus deserve the best.
5. I am also polite in any situation so I will wish you a nice day.

1. The dating comment was an inside joke, a sarcastic statement not meant to be taken seriously.
2. We certainly don't have to be. But fair enough, point taken.
3. That's a personal perspective. No one will deprive you from your gloominess—it's a choice. A choice you'll keep making as long as you let it make you feel better about yourself.
4. I hope you attain what you deserve, then.
5. I would take frankness over politically correct politeness any day, but thank you.

[Reficulris]

That was a nice compliment, thank you.

I am a lonely soul as I have always been apart.
I used to think negatively about when I was a teen or in my 20s. I do not click with people easily.
At school, I was a bookwarm. At college, I strived for intellectual exchanges. I am a knowledge gatherer.
Do not even know how to explain. I inspire some kind of intellectual connection with people and it happens almost never.
In romantic relationship, I need that exceptional brain food mixed with unexplained soul connection and physical attraction.
I am perfectionistic in everything I do. Hard with people and even harder with myself.
Now that I am older, I am just aware that I am the only person that will be there for me till the very end. I accept.

Oh wait...this reeks of Delta Introverted Sensor....have you considered SLI?


Edit: your and @the matrix interaction feels like ILE - SEI to me (him shooting Ne like a manic baby giraffe). Could be IEE-SLI too but I always immagine SLI's to be more cold about it

So, oposed to anything others have told you I'd go for SEI or SLI. I don't see you as mostly intuitive....


Edit2: Watched two of your videos. Definately SLI as far as i'm concerned. Also, one of the cooler individuals from that type i've seen sofar

((you do get that we just all type you as our (semi)dual cuz you're lovely, maybe just take advice from female forum posters just to be sure ;-) ))

[The Martrix]

Edit: your and @the matrix interaction feels like ILE - SEI to me (him shooting Ne like a manic baby giraffe)

Like a manic baby giraffe! That's gotten me in hysterics. Though, seeing your avatar, is there any chance we're related?
Ok, ILE ... That's a turn up for the books. I never considered it. I've always related much more to the / vision/willpower dynamic.
But isn't Ne the language of humour?

[Reficulris]

Like a manic baby giraffe! That's gotten me in hysterics. Though, seeing your avatar, is there any chance we're related?
Ok, ILE ... That's a turn up for the books. I never considered it. I've always related much more to the / vision/willpower dynamic.
But isn't Ne the language of humour?

Mind you, it was a superficial observation. And yes, i saw something of my own sense of humor reflected hence the manic baby giraffe thing.

Maybe ILE is off, maybe IEE fits better, maybe it's EII. You're intuitive though with strong Ne.

She as contrast doesn't strike me as intuitive (i'm going to be in troubles with Meged now... -_-)) so... It could be ILE-SEI duality, it could be ILE -SLI could be IEE - SLI duality. The interaction looked pretty favorable to say the least.

I've not interacted long enough with you to be able to know wether you're Ni/Ne dom, also, i suck at typing


And yes, Ne is the language of both humor and love, i doubt we actually need anything else as humans!

[Persephone]

Didn't read the entire thread, cuz: Too long.

Based on pictures: SEI, but there's bound to be wishfull thinking in there since we don't have many here.

Based on that lovely little expose you and Park went into i'd say not beta. That joke would have gone over better with an EIE. You actually cut him off like a supervisor or conflictor might have done (i'm not judging, that was approperiate).

IEI/SEI is my guess, based on chat interaction i'd say compatible with me at least superficially so probably not gamma.

Gazing at the sky and seeing dragons makes me lean towards SEI as IEI's usually have dragons in their heads instead of in the outer world...(alternatively, they can BE dragons)

Finally, you look like you're in your mid 20's still.

There is no way I might be Si dom, but thanks for the suggestion

I am clumsy and walk into things. My body is always full of bruises because I hit stuff.
I am constantly losing my phone, my keys, my ID card etc. If I am lucky, I find them, if not...
I lost again my driver's license a month ago.
I just hope to drop on it as I did with my ID card, took me 2 months last time.

I try to keep up to an approximately healthy diet for obvious reasons, but I am not much into variety.
Can eat eggs/tomatos during all week long
I can either eat nothing and eat loads of shit.
I hate cooking or any other domestic cores. It's total mess around me.
I started to excercise 2 years ago, can be sometimes too obsessive about.
I am not a very good athlete,have little strength overall but I feel good when I excercise, I feel more energized.
I have also an obsessive relation to mirrors... and worry how I come across people.

I have issues with insomnia too, mainly because I can't get to disconnect my head.
My dragons are out and in. I gaze both out and in due to life circumstances.
I like to call myself Persephone, because I can be everything.

The Park issue is not relevant, I was a newcomer and tiptoeing. I still am to some extent.
Besides vulgarity and granted aggression are something that I do not tolerate very well.

Oh wait...this reeks of Delta Introverted Sensor....have you considered SLI?


Edit: your and @the matrix interaction feels like ILE - SEI to me (him shooting Ne like a manic baby giraffe). Could be IEE-SLI too but I always immagine SLI's to be more cold about it

So, oposed to anything others have told you I'd go for SEI or SLI. I don't see you as mostly intuitive....


Edit2: Watched two of your videos. Definately SLI as far as i'm concerned. Also, one of the cooler individuals from that type i've seen sofar

((you do get that we just all type you as our (semi)dual cuz you're lovely, maybe just take advice from female forum posters just to be sure ;-) ))

Delta is the quadra I am less comfortable about. So there is little chance I can be SLI.

Striving for perfection to fall into the chaos...
I am not aware of my surroundings and daydream and project myself constantly into the future..

Cool is probably not an appropriate word to describe me
I like all those (semi)dual typing trials

[The Martrix]

There is no way I might be Si dom, but thanks for the suggestion

This is no surprise. You always vibed Ni-dom to me.

I am clumsy and walk into things. My body is always full of bruises because I hit stuff.
I am constantly losing my phone, my keys, my ID card etc. If I am lucky, I find them, if not...
I lost again my driver's license a month ago.
I just hope to drop on it as I did with my ID card, took me 2 months last time.

I have so many stories of when I was a child losing things (sometimes accidentally gaining things) at school.

Does losing your driver's license affect your commute? Would you usually drive to work? Good luck finding it. I once lost my National Insurance card in a bar 5-6 years ago. I never got it back.

I try to keep up to an approximately healthy diet for obvious reasons, but I am not much into variety.
Can eat eggs/tomatos during all week long
I can either eat nothing and eat loads of shit.

You ought to keep away from the *ahem* "shit" ... processed foods aren't good for you.

I hate cooking or any other domestic cores. It's total mess around me.
I started to excercise 2 years ago, can be sometimes too obsessive about.
I am not a very good athlete,have little strength overall but I feel good when I excercise, I feel more energized.
I have also an obsessive relation to mirrors... and worry how I come across people.

This all sounds like Role-.

I have issues with insomnia too, mainly because I can't get to disconnect my head.

I had very bad insomnia years back when I was taking my exams. The problem is, the more the necessity for sleep, to harder it is to sleep.

My dragons are out and in. I gaze both out and in due to life circumstances.
I like to call myself Persephone, because I can be everything.

The Persephone myth must have been the first ever case of Stockholm Syndrome.

[Reficulris]

There is no way I might be Si dom, but thanks for the suggestion

I am clumsy and walk into things. My body is always full of bruises because I hit stuff.
I am constantly losing my phone, my keys, my ID card etc. If I am lucky, I find them, if not...
I lost again my driver's license a month ago.
I just hope to drop on it as I did with my ID card, took me 2 months last time.

I try to keep up to an approximately healthy diet for obvious reasons, but I am not much into variety.
Can eat eggs/tomatos during all week long
I can either eat nothing and eat loads of shit.
I hate cooking or any other domestic cores. It's total mess around me.
I started to excercise 2 years ago, can be sometimes too obsessive about.
I am not a very good athlete,have little strength overall but I feel good when I excercise, I feel more energized.
I have also an obsessive relation to mirrors... and worry how I come across people.

No, that doesn't sound like Si-dom at all

I have issues with insomnia too, mainly because I can't get to disconnect my head.
My dragons are out and in. I gaze both out and in due to life circumstances.
I like to call myself Persephone, because I can be everything.

Insomnia is a bitch, not sleeping enough can make anyone into an ILI or IEI (either cynical depressed or "seeing things")

The Park issue is not relevant, I was a newcomer and tiptoeing. I still am to some extent.
Besides vulgarity and granted aggression are something that I do not tolerate very well.

hmhm, I didn't think it was an issue, but I do think it shows an interesting piece of interaction. Even though you were new and tiptoing you were not afriad of putting him in his rightfull place.

Despite protests, everything means something here

Delta is the quadra I am less comfortable about. So there is little chance I can be SLI.

Striving for perfection to fall into the chaos...
I am not aware of my surroundings and daydream and project myself constantly into the future..

What in particular about delta makes you feel uncomfortable? not doubting, mainly curiosity (also might be relevant for typing)

Cool is probably not an appropriate word to describe me

That's never to one self to determine

I like all those (semi)dual typing trials

^^


I've got the following thoughts as of now:

There is a mismatch between your chatting style and the way you come across on camera. If I went solely from chat i'd have little problems accepting the IEI typing. However, your appearance on camera seems way stronger, more determined and forcefull than any IEI i've ever encountered. (not in a bad way). Also, I'm rather sure you're logical. In one of the videos you even "narate" the fact that you're smiling, as if that wasn't obvious ^^. I'm also rather convinced you're an introvert, based on both video ánd content of your posts. I'll take your word for Ni dom, your posts especially DO show that feature. However, when on camera I see someone who's more....together, less scattered, than most Ni doms.

...hmm

Maybe logical intuitive introvert, possibly rational; LII. Maybe ILI
I really see ILI as more of an option than IEI tbh, the only snatch is that you dislike delta, which is a very beta'ish thing.

That said, in chat you're emotive and funny, maybe it's all due to camera anxiety and lack of sleep, still the "this is a video with an actual smile" remark makes me lean heavily towards logical..

Disclaimer: Baby-giraffe's are notorious for their lack of typing skills and yet pronounced oppinions ;-)

[Park]

Ti-LSI.

Take this test to confirm my exceptional VI skills.

[Persephone]

Ti-LSI.

Take this test to confirm my exceptional VI skills.

Lost. I got LII-1Ne (INTj).
Any comments?
PS Actually I do not trust tests.

[Park]

Any comments?

The test is flawed.

[Persephone]

The test is flawed.

Can you develop please?

[Park]

Can you develop please?

It means I'm right.

[Aylen]

Lost. I got LII-1Ne (INTj).
Any comments?
PS Actually I do not trust tests.

If you took the test with the slider...I suggest taking it again and being very mindful of how you adjust the slider. Also check out the dichotomies first because they explain how the questions are being asked. So taking the test without knowing the context of the questions is difficult.

[Persephone]

If you took the test with the slider...I suggest taking it again and being very mindful of how you adjust the slider. Also check out the dichotomies first because they explain how the questions are being asked. So taking the test without knowing the context of the questions are difficult.

Thanks. I took it as it went, did not think about the slider effect.
Where can I check the dichotomies out please?

[Aylen]

Thanks. I took it as it went, did not think about the slider effect.
Where can I check the dichotomies out please?

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...ical_socionics

[Beautiful sky]

Need more pictures of you please.

[IBTL]

If there ever was an IEI...

[Persephone]

If there ever was an IEI...

Any suggestions for other pics then?
Thanks.

[Persephone]

Thank you so much for your feedback.
I'll reply in an extended way tonight.
And will add extra pictures for Maritsa.

[JuJu]

Please take this with a grain of salt (i.e. in the past ten years, snap judgement typing threads haven't helped nearly as many people as they've confused,) but what comes across most clearly in your photos and words is that you value Ni.

Whether it's Beta Ni or Gamma Ni, only you know for sure (If this were Vegas, and someone wanted to make odds -- I'd place my bet on beta INFp, Ni subtype -- with your Genf photos giving me pause... But what a wonderful city!)

[Persephone]

Please take this with a grain of salt (i.e. in the past ten years, snap judgement typing threads haven't helped nearly as many people as they've confused,) but what comes across most clearly in your photos and words is that you value Ni.

Whether it's Beta Ni or Gamma Ni, only you know for sure (If this were Vegas, and someone wanted to make odds -- I'd place my bet on beta INFp, Ni subtype -- with your Genf photos giving me pause... But what a wonderful city!)

Thank you for your output.
I spent a year in Geneva for my studies, this is indeed a wonderful city. Such a mix of everything. Always happy to get back there.

To go back to the topic, is Ni that obvious? Must be my stare. People often tell me I look through them
I actually consistently test as INTJ in MBTI.