What's wrong with society today?
Does anyone else ever get a feeling that something is seriously wrong with society these days? It seems like most people have lost compassion towards one another and have become selfish and self indulgent. I'm not pointing out fingers to anyone in particular it's just a general feeling.
How do you know this isn't how it's always been? Be careful not to confuse trends in society with the evolution of your own perception and attitudes as you age and experience more of life. There has always been conflict in the human world, even before recorded history. There's always some part of the world in turmoil, some subset of the population of even the most developed civilizations struggling in the face of hardship, and the general disposition of society reflects that. I don't believe the world is going to hell in a hand basket, this is just how it's always been and how it will probably continue long after we are dead and buried.
It doesn't seem like it has always been this way. I think capitalism and materialsm are much more pronounced these days. You don't see people protesting in america these days or rebelling or wanting to become self aware. How many millions of people are jacked up anti depressants? Or some kind of psychotrpic drug compared to before?. I think it has something to do with our increasing dependance of technology thus it forces us to abide by the system. We are becoming a slave to it, think about all the ever increasing monthly fees towards we pay today compared to 20 years ago?Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig
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Sort of. State control and regulation (socialism) has expanded alongside capitalism and has overshadowed it in most respects.
Where have you been for the past 10 years? There's been all kinds of rallies and protests -- for and against -- the War on Terror, gay marriage, marijuana rights, Occupy Wall Street, and so on. I saw a headline today that 17 people were arrested in California protesting the outcome of the Zimmerman trial in Florida.
I don't know how this is relevant, but have you considered how "jacked up" most of these people were before they started taking medication? Physicians and therapists don't hand out drugs to purposely turn people into animate vegetables.
You might have a point somewhere, but whatever it is I can't make heads or tails of it. All I've seen are incoherent ramblings stitched together by vague and inaccurate suppositions.
This is a really ignorant thing to say, you do know that antidepressants are one of if not the most prescribed drug in the united states. Do you not see something seriously wrong with that statistic? Do you really think these people had serious mental issues that couldn't be figured out without taking these medications?. Drug companies push doctors to prescribe meds so they make a profit. Just a heads up drugs companies don't care about you, they have share holders that invest in their company that just want to see a profit. Drugs companies have a market for selling medication to kids now it's called "ADD". It's not natural for a child to be hyperactive they are sick right? Depression occurs in many of people whether it is the change of season or the loss of a loved one people need time to recover. In a competitive system there is no time to be human, time lost is profit lost and if you can't keep up you're worthless. It's a broken system socially.
Sorry man can't help you if you're that slow.
I had a couple of threads like this, I think. First one called : what's wrong with the world, and second: what's wrong with solar system.
Yes, What is wrong with society these days?
You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k
Canadians.
Americans can learn a thing or two about Canadians.
I wouldn't know about that because I'm not American or Canadian.
You should still know it....hah
I don't really consider a mere 6% of the human population so significant.
Aren't you breaking your own reason d'etre by being self gratifying and insular here? What's the message?
Think about all the people dying of Polio 80 years ago. Or the prevalent child abuse that was the norm until about the 1980's. Or the fact that Racist was the common view 50 years ago.
Society has improved, and we are better capable of dealing with our issues. It's just that we are more aware of our issues. Similar to how we age as people; when we are young we are less aware of ourselves, we have huge improvements we need to make to function fairly in society, and the issues are easier to change as we are less ingrained in the habit. When we are old, our self-awareness spurs our growth that allows us to be a productive member of society, but we have habits and crutches that we can't change because of how dependant we've been on them to get as far as we did. We are the world.
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
what r u then =o
Wut u think?
There will always be scum and dirt of the earth. There will always be more filth for without it, the diamonds could never shine as beautiful as they are.
So what is cursing the darkness going to get you? What is saying 'You're being so mean!' to people going to get you? Are you going to get through to them? Maybe not. A lot of the times they will just smirk 'I know I'm being an ass here, deal with it!' and shake their booty in your face, further trying to enrage you.
Be a hero for somebody in real life. Listen to the outcasted gay emo teen and help improve his self-esteem. Feed the homeless yourself, give to charity, see a situation in the real world where people are being taking advantage of and try to help them. The problem is a lot of people who are being hurt love continue to being hurt because they feel it makes them more human and humble. After all plenty of people feel sorry for them in their situation, so other people might not necessarily thank you for trying to help them but continue to help anyway. You are the candle.
Civilization expands, the system becomes a strain and people lose their ability to function, and the system collapses. Now we're at a noticable tipping point... our economy will collapse in a couple years. But this is just one economic cycle out of many cycles. Since civilization began we have been headed for self annihilation... Just look at the mass extinctions across the planet for proof of that. If you thought everything was fine before you must have been blind.
The problem with civilization is we are removed from the self sustaining harmony of living in relation to nature, and are no longer subject to natural selection. The waste begins piling up and the environment becomes toxic.
I seriously doubt our economy is going to collapse in a couple years.
Then you are seriously clueless about economies.
2016 - 2020
No just not a fan of completely radical statements.
I'm sure the news would call it radical.
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Our mainstream humor is more cynical and 'biting' than the humor in the developing world, or so I've noticed.
at least here you don't get executed for having a sense of humor...
I'm pretty sure you won't get executed in most places for having a sense of humor.
not true...in some of these "developing countries" a husband can have his wife executed for whatever she does that ticks him off (including a joke)I'm pretty sure you won't get executed in most places for having a sense of humor.
all he has to do is make a bad faith claim that she cheated on him...his word will outweigh hers.
most of those "developing countries" have been in existence for over five hundred years...what makes you think they will develop if they haven't already.
countries are like people, at the end of the day, they are what they are...you ain't gonna change 'em.
most of those "developing countries" are third world toilets...let's be blunt about it.
The operative word here is some. Some < most.
Ah, your avatar is a meklar. Very good.
moo3 is worst moo. D:
lol yeah, MOO 3 sucked big time.
moo2 is still hugely playable.
hey, ya never know...maybe in another 2,000 years one of those "developing countries" will actually develop.
4X games are supposed to let you run an interstellar empire. In MOO 3 you actually get to run one.
It could be a product of mass media incorporating ideals onto our youth that corrupts their fragile minds. The introduction of the internet enables people to feel less connected with eachother and thus have lower compassion. An unstable economy forces people to care more about their own problems and ignore others. People succumbing to new unknown forms of addiction that damage their sense of well being and moral code. These are just a few of the multitude of possibilities that are wrong with society today imo.
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To read some of the written records of ages past, in all regions of the world, our particular society doesn't seem any more or less diseased than previous generations'. We're not seeing anything more than an expression of basic human vices that have always existed, but manifest differently in different times and cultures. I think the most pressing issues today are those that always have been part of the human fabric: tribalism and objectification, in which we can no longer look beyond the dualistic tendency towards psychologically "splitting" the world into a tangible "us" vs. an unreal "other." The reality of other people doesn't usually set in until you've spent time with them.
In current times, globalization and industrialization has exacerbated this problem. The further removed we become from the source of the things we eat, wear, use on a daily basis, the less we tend to think of the human rights implications, the environmental implications, and the social and economic implications. There are people literally dieing to make the clothes we wear. There are people literally dieing from the chemicals we consciously spray on our food crops and unwittingly dump into the ecosystem. There are real human, animal, and plant casualties to greed, which has evolved beyond the human scale of the past and extended to the organizational level of corporatism. But because those things happen "over there" and not here, we aren't faced with the reality of what sustains our standard of living. "Over there" usually refers to places with absent, weak, or corrupt governmental oversight of the preservation, support, and stewardship of the country's land and people.
On a more cerebral note, the more estranged we become from the act of producing and retreat into day-after-day consumption, the more helpless we become to the forces that shape our acculturation and our collective mind. I say "mind" in the singular because the human mind is socially conditioned and sustained: the very manner in which we parse our experience is linguistically conditioned. Many facets of my identity as "I" doen't exist without "you." The way our mind is shaped, not only through the explicit channels of advertising and mass media, but the more subtle back-channel feedback of the way we go about sating the pleasure-centers of our brains.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Agree with @Pookie that many things have improved in society, especially thanks to advances in science. But I also think that advancement can also lead to new problems. Like yay video games, but now everyone can develop their expert assassin skills and mentality. Agree with @ Capitalist Pig I think human nature in society hasn't changed. But the mass media has affected awareness of problems, and also brought finger pointing to a whole new level. Maybe some issues have been brought to light to be better dealt with, like child abuse. But I also think there are people that will not be affected by the consequences of possibly appearing in the news all over the internet and are going to do whatever crime they want to do no matter what.
You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k
But this is exactly what I'm trying to get at, technology advances but socially people are still very primitive and we haven't made advances in that at all.
So you don't agree with socionics but you're part of the forums?
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