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    @negern Having looked at the thread you linked, I assume that when you say "choose (yes button) what sounds the best", you actually mean that the person should choose that which they wish they could be (the "ideal"). At the moment, it just sounds like you're saying "choose which fits you the most". It could be a language barrier thing. Either way, you should probably fix that to make your instructions more clear. (This does not mean I support the reasoning behind your instructions or the tool you're using. I just think the former should have been communicated better.) It also wouldn't hurt to directly address your reasoning within the OP, even if you just copy and paste from the linked thread.
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    First test- INFp --> ISFp
    Second test- INFp --> ISFp

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    ISFj ----> ISTj
    ESFj ----> ESTj
    Last edited by squirreltual; 06-24-2013 at 12:30 PM. Reason: derped it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by negern View Post
    1. Choose one of the tests:

    http://www.socionics.com/sta/sta_turbo.html

    4 questions

    Instructions:

    * Answer according to what you wanna look like (look-a-like). Count points if it is a difficult question to answer in that manner)

    2a. You are the type opposing your result in this table (Look-a-like relations):

    ENTp - ESTp
    ISFp - INFp
    ESFj - ESTj
    INTj - INFj
    ENFj - ENTj
    ISTj - ISFj
    ESFp - ENFp
    INTp - ISTp


    http://www.socionics.com/sta/sta_turbo_xl.html

    54 questions

    Instructions:

    * Answer according to what you wanna look like (look-a-like)

    * Utilize the unsure button when you are unsure due to a difficult question to answer philosophically, if you get too many Xs then my method wont work for you on this test.

    2b. You are the type opposing your result in this table (Look-a-like relations):

    ENTp - ESTp
    ISFp - INFp
    ESFj - ESTj
    INTj - INFj
    ENFj - ENTj
    ISTj - ISFj
    ESFp - ENFp
    INTp - ISTp

    My answers:





    My result:


    Why this method works:
    "Business relations (also known as look-alike relations) are similar to identity and kindred in that partners have half their functions in common — in this case, all the even-numbered ones ("Producing functions 'come second' and are even-numbered: 2, 4, 6, and 8")."
    Sources:
    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Business
    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p..._and_producing

    Which means that what we want to look like is a product of an incomplete (half) perception of reality. The other half is what we actually are but can't perceive, (and in an "normal" individual what we want to look like):



    "Aushra Augusta suggested that accepting functions focus on obtaining a picture of reality, and producing functions create some sort of 'new' product that is molded to that cross-cut of reality obtained by the accepting function."
    Source:
    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p..._and_producing Content 2

    This means that my method lets you produces a result that is going to when calculated with my algorithm (Look-a-like relations) give you your actual type.

    Recommended descriptions/portraits:

    ENTp
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    ISFp
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    ESFj
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    INTj
    http://personalitycafe.com/blogs/lan...written-12277/

    ENFj
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    ISTj
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    ESTp
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    INFp
    http://personalitycafe.com/infp-arti...r-written.html

    ESFp
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    INTp
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    ENTj
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    ISFj
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html

    ESTj
    http://personalitycafe.com/logical-s...r-written-112/
    INFj
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    ENFp
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html
    ISTp
    http://personalitycafe.com/socionics...r-written.html

    Edit:
    Foundation for this thread:
    http://www.socionics.com/forums/show...5760#post25760
    Updated
    Last edited by griggerplease; 06-26-2013 at 12:31 AM.

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    I have now explained why this method actually works.

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    I don't want to look like an INTj...why would I want to? This test makes no sense.

    If I want to look like an ESTj

    but I am an INFj on the second test, what does that make me?
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    descriptions added

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