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    Default Why are the information elements out of logical order?

    Why aren't the functions in sequntial order? I am an IEI, so why do I write them like the left colum and not the right?

    [|]..........[|]
    [|]..........[|]
    [|]..........[|]
    [|]..........[|]

    or with the fuction numbers:

    [ 1 | 2 ].........[ 1 | 2 ]
    [ 4 | 3 ].........[ 3 | 4 ]
    [ 6 | 5 ].........[ 5 | 6 ]
    [ 7 | 8 ].........[ 7 | 8 ]

    is it just because they wanted a checker board?

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    the function order isn't about "strength" the way it is in mbti. Its about how its treated and when its used in what circumstances. wikisocion has a link that talks about the specific imporance of each position of each function.

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    You think you could link me to that?

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    i'm guessing it's because the columns represent some function dichotomy or something.

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    Maybe you misunderstood my questions. I know all about how all the functions relate to each other, I was just curious about the order they were placed in the chart, it seems a little confusing. I just wanted to know why the EGO and ID are read left to right (1,2 and 7,8) and the SUPER EGO and SUPER ID are read backwards (4,3 and 6,5). Does that make sense?

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    oh, I still have no idea what those fucking row checker things are trying to convey.

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    information flow is better shown with that order.

    1 > 2 > 3 > 4

    also, i remember seeing some russian stuff where it actually represents a cube, not a rectangle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    i'm guessing it's because the columns represent some function dichotomy or something.
    That make so much sense. The right column of functions are all inert and the left column are all contact functions. Thanks :]

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    or that

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    Quote Originally Posted by bionicgerbil View Post
    information flow is better shown with that order.
    also, i remember seeing some russian stuff where it actually represents a cube, not a rectangle.
    aha! like this? : link

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajsindri View Post
    aha! like this? : link
    all the interesting looking links at the bottom only go to Russian pages. grrrr

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    The functions on the left are "inert" and to the right are "contact"... I think it has something to do with that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajsindri View Post
    Maybe you misunderstood my questions. I know all about how all the functions relate to each other, I was just curious about the order they were placed in the chart, it seems a little confusing. I just wanted to know why the EGO and ID are read left to right (1,2 and 7,8) and the SUPER EGO and SUPER ID are read backwards (4,3 and 6,5). Does that make sense?
    http://www.socionics.us/theory/model.shtml
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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