Visual Typing

[Mechman]

Just creating this as an extension of my other "Type Me" post. VI me yall.









Old School:

[Beautiful sky]

I need a picture taken directly from the side from the shoulder's up; can you manage one?

Yeah, you look like SLI.

[Mechman]

I need a picture taken directly from the side from the shoulder's up; can you manage one?

Yeah, you look like SLI.

Give me about 10 mins...gotta charge my phone a bit before I can take the pic.

[Codie]

Yeah I agree you do VI as ISTp (SLI)

[Mechman]

The one you asked for:



And one for fun:

[Korpsy Knievel]

Yeah I agree you do VI as ISTp (SLI)

Yeah, you look like SLI.

Ladies (???), please provide photos of your anuses so other forum members can familiarize themselves with the source of your physiognomic diagnoses.

[Mechman]

Ladies (???), please provide photos of your anuses so other forum members can familiarize themselves with the source of your physiognomic diagnoses.

Well, I don't see you doing a better job.

[Beautiful sky]

Confirmed SLI. NO. a j type.

[Beautiful sky]

His not deducing his type from still photos; I am.

[Korpsy Knievel]

His not deducing his type from still photos; I am.

If your reading comprehension weren't so abysmal you'd realize that's what I said.

[Beautiful sky]

Describe the means by which you're able to determine whether they've competently deduced your info metabolism type from still photos.

AKA: What physical features they use to figure out your type. ASS HOLE.

[ashlesha]

Lol. Vi is just a game but I thought sli when I saw those pictures too.

[717495]

Lol. Vi is just a game

Nah.

[Beautiful sky]

It seems to me that EK is trying to find some legitimacy between VI and personality when all along I've said that the two are complimentary.

[ashlesha]

Mechman, ekpyrosos IS "making an effort" and helping by letting you know its bs, I don't get why you're being argumentative about it.

[fen]

Because it isn't very helpful to simply state that someone else is wrong without supplying an alternative.

[ashlesha]

The alternative is "don't use vi," obviously.

[Mechman]

Mechman, ekpyrosos IS "making an effort" and helping by letting you know its bs, I don't get why you're being argumentative about it.

Because he's getting on other people for VI me without any explanation, yet he's claiming they're wrong without any explanation.

He's doing the exact same thing they're doing, except on the opposite end of the spectrum.

[ashlesha]

Because he's getting on other people for VI me without any explanation, yet he's claiming they're wrong without any explanation.

He's doing the exact same thing they're doing, except on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Do you really need an explanation for why looking at somebody in a photograph isn't a key to understanding their cognitive workings? really, really?

[Mechman]

Do you really need an explanation for why looking at somebody in a photograph isn't a key to understanding their cognitive workings? really, really?

Do I need to make some VI quotes? Really? Really?

Alright.

Visual identification, or "VI", as it is commonly called, refers to the process of identifying socionic types based on visual information alone. Depending what method the socionist has developed, this term may refer to any of the following:

diagnosing types based on photographs or their appearance and movements in video
diagnosing types based on people's appearance and movements in real life
using the above as part of the type diagnosis process, but not exclusively

Most often, among enthusiasts, to VI someone means making a guess about a type based on photographs.

Check it out...there's even a stickied thread about this on this very forum.

This method is known as "Visual Identification." Videos are highly preferable, but if you choose to post pictures (and you certainly don't have to), I strongly recommend that you

1) post multiple pictures, if possible, and
2) post more than just pictures (i.e. description)

Personally, for visual identification I prefer to have dozens of pictures (or better, someone's whole facebook account), but this is a forum, and there are issues with privacy and space. If you follow these guidelines, the typings you get will be more accurate.

Not to mention I already got typed via text explanations earlier.

Who are you to tell me what I can and can't do anyways? Give me a break.

[EyeSeeCold]

Mechman, ekpyrosos IS "making an effort" and helping by letting you know its bs, I don't get why you're being argumentative about it.

...Serious?

[ashlesha]

Esc - Well I think he was doing something more like providing skepticism than saying it was bs but I can't speak for him.

In any case I have no idea why you'd be incredulous about it. information can be helpful whether it falls in line with the norm opinion or not, you know.

[EyeSeeCold]

Lol. This thread degenerated into a train wreck fast.

I wonder why.

[EyeSeeCold]

Probably your fault.

hardy har

[Saberstorm]

I can see SLI. Are you blood type A?

Your personality is also seen in the pictures, as they include a social context! It is not pure VI.

If his pictures were him playing a pen and paper D&D game, playing a synthesizer (alone) and standing around (alone) in a martial arts costume, then a few photos of him in a large group engaged in causal dining at Applebees (a work related team outing) I would have a totally different type for him. I would say EII!

It is not pure bone structure.

[Mechman]

I can see SLI. Are you blood type A?

Don't know my blood type.

If his pictures were him playing a pen and paper D&D game, playing a synthesizer (alone) and standing around (alone) in a martial arts costume, then a few photos of him in a large group engaged in causal dining at Applebees (a work related team outing) I would have a totally different type for him. I would say EII!

So you're saying the setting of my pictures gives away my type? Or you're saying that's why it's difficult to VI me?

[Saberstorm]

I am fucking with you over the blood type...

A picture says a thousand words. Of course socionic type can be guessed better with dynamic input. Your face alone says very little, except maybe that you are judicous...

[Korpsy Knievel]

Explain to me how I'd be doing any better by listening to a sideline critic claiming their wrong.

Point out where I said "their" wrong.

Doesn't help this situation any does it?

Only if you're lazy.

It seems to me that EK is trying to find some legitimacy between VI and personality when all along I've said that the two are complimentary.

BZZZZZZZZZZT. I'm questioning the utility of VI and cautioning against jumping to hasty conclusions, although you did chat this fellow up in his introductory thread prior to eyeballing his pix. Now since we've cleared up your latest mistaken assumption, be so kind as to provide the standard by which you measure someone's type from photographic evidence.

[Beautiful sky]

Point out where I said "their" wrong.



Only if you're lazy.



BZZZZZZZZZZT. I'm questioning the utility of VI and cautioning against jumping to hasty conclusions, although you did chat this fellow up in his introductory thread prior to eyeballing his pix. Now since we've cleared up your latest mistaken assumption, be so kind as to provide the standard by which you measure someone's type from photographic evidence.

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...d.php/39301-VI

[Mechman]

Point out where I said "their" wrong.

Nit picking on a spelling error, eh? Here, let me go fix that so it doesn't hurt your feelings.

I'm done with this crap. Sideline critics/armchair warrior arguments are a waste of time.

[Saberstorm]

Fe vulnerablity triggered his mobilizing Fi to produce a solution to the problem. He expresses dislike (Fi) to balance his uneasyness with the negative feelings he was getting from Korpsey.

[Mechman]

Fe vulnerablity triggered his mobilizing Fi to produce a solution to the problem. He expresses dislike (Fi) to balance his uneasyness with the negative feelings he was getting from Korpsey.

Not sure what all that means, new to Socionics. Anyways, all that's going on right now is my getting slightly annoyed by the lame arguments being put up.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Nit picking on a spelling error, eh? Here, let me go fix that so it doesn't hurt your feelings.

I'm done with this crap. Sideline critics/armchair warrior arguments are a waste of time.

Look into enneagram 6, my sensitive & projecting pal, especially the counter-phobic subtype. E-6 is generally a good fit with SLI, which, though indefinite, seemed a safe bet from your self-description in the other thread.

Note to MrRTR, the other freshly-birthed SLI: put your pride aside and give phobic 6 a closer look. If huffiness on the internet is any indicator, this dude's testicular fortitude leaves yours in the dust.

[Mechman]

Look into enneagram 6, my sensitive & projecting pal, especially the counter-phobic subtype.

Not really sure where you're getting this, "sensitive/projecting" stuff. I'm a little heated yeah, but I'm far from being pissed off. And whatever "projection" you read, wasn't really, "projection." Most was either sarcasm or just the honest truth, "I'm done with this crap," I say that when I can't get a garbage bag wrapped around the rim of the can.

My issue is that you refused to listen to reason and eventually degraded to pointing out a spelling error, which in my book is basically you saying, "I can't win this debate, so I'm going to ignore the facts and just nitpick". It's just a waste of time. I'm not personally offended and don't feel personally attacked in the least bit. It's just annoying when I make a clear point and it's ignored.

As far as type 6 goes, that's a no go. I've studied the Enneagram for well over a year now and type 5 is pretty much a fit.

[Beautiful sky]

Kassi, you have your mind made up, you're not open to other ideas; you're not interested in other ways of doing things which is VI-ing; you're not taking into consideration that although VI is not your way of doing things it is A WAY of doing things and you're discounting that, hence making you devalue .

Mechman, you value because new ideas, you are more open to them and are willing to acknowledge that this is a legitimate way of doing things.

You both ignore each other's functions; Kassie, you are making demands on him and Mechman avoids making demands on you; Kassie wants him to do things her way and because Mechman ignores Se, and says "No" she declares her dislike for him because she can't "control" his decision. Tsk-tsk.

I would suggest you two stay away from each other.

[Mechman]

You both ignore each other's functions; Kassie, you are making demands on him and Mechman avoids making demands on you; Kassie wants him to do things her way and because Mechman ignores Se, and says "No" she declares her dislike for him because she can't "control" his decision. Tisk tisk.

Nice breakdown of the play by plays.

I don't know that I value Ne very much, though. I'm not usually open to new ideas if something already works fine. I came in to Socionics thinking this was a decent chunk of it, so I'm not really accepting anything new within Socionics. It came with the turf. And to be fair, it's taken probably 4-5 months for me to get to a point where I can accept VI isn't completely bogus(based on personal experience within that timespan). When I first heard about it I thought it was complete nonsense.

[Beautiful sky]

Nice breakdown of the play by plays.

I don't know that I value Ne very much, though. I'm not usually open to new ideas if something already works fine. I came in to Socionics thinking this was a decent chunk of it, so I'm not really accepting anything new within Socionics. It came with the turf. And to be fair, it's taken probably 4-5 months for me to get to a point where I can accept VI isn't completely bogus(based on personal experience within that timespan). When I first heard about it I thought it was complete nonsense.

You are open to new ideas, the fact that you entertain the possibility that they might exist means you are open to new ideas; and the proof is what you said, it took you a while, but eventually you did, which means you're not a closed minded person. And, when a new idea is accepted after it's working possibility is established shows a pragmatic preference; Ne valuing means that you value new possibilities and ideas but Ne base means you are one, you just are more of a realist to your dual.

[Mechman]

You are open to new ideas, the fact that you entertain the possibility that they might exist means you are open to new ideas; and the proof is what you said, it took you a while, but eventually you did, which means you're not a closed minded person. And, when a new idea is accepted after it's working possibility is established shows a pragmatic preference; Ne valuing means that you value new possibilities and ideas but Ne base means you are one, you just are more of a realist to your dual.

I'm not sure what, "base" and "value" mean? I assume "base" probably is referring to 'x' being the first function.

Also, how exactly does that tie in to being an SLI?

[Beautiful sky]

I'm not sure what, "base" and "value" mean? I assume "base" probably is referring to 'x' being the first function.

Also, how exactly does that tie in to being an SLI?

Base Ne means the person has Ne in their 1st function making them either IEE or ILE types
Valuing Ne means the person belongs to Alpha or Delta quadrants; you, as an SLI, are in the Delta quadrant and value ideas and possibilities in a pragmatic way.

Your dual (half, match, mate, etc) has Ne base.

[Korpsy Knievel]

I still don't get where you're getting this "hurt feelings" stuff. I already made it clear that I was in no way personally offended by anything posted in this thread.

Try here when you got angry, which caused me quite a laugh:

Nit picking on a spelling error, eh? Here, let me go fix that so it doesn't hurt your feelings.

I'm done with this crap. Sideline critics/armchair warrior arguments are a waste of time.

Next.

In fact, if anything your post about my spelling error neutralized whatever frustration I was experiencing because at that point I realized that you were blatantly ignoring my side of the debate.

Kindly tell me how that computes, unless your idea of listening is agreeing.

This kind of segways into the enneagram. Counter-phobic 6's react aggressively due to anxiety/fear. I reacted out of frustration. It's the same kind of deal as trying to stick a piece of thread through the hole of a needle. You try and try and try and regardless of what you do, the thread just doesn't seem to get through the hole, so you become more and more aggravated until you finally realize, "it's not worth it."

More projection with "you you you" when you're actually talking about yourself. I don't have the sort of motor coordination issues you're volunteering with this example, nor do many other people.

Right, as is yours.

Now I'm curious if you're generally wary of those who advise thoughtful decisions.

Right, because through reading the function descriptions and how they work, mixed with other profiles of SLI is pretty much a nail on the head. And the more I read it the more I agree with it.

If that's the case then why are you confused about fundamentals like the following:

I'm not sure what, "base" and "value" mean? I assume "base" probably is referring to 'x' being the first function.

I took a brief test a while back and that also came out SLI(although back then I did no research on it). So it all added up.

Took a test + didn't research = all added up. What? I'll charitably assume you mean it made sense when you looked into SLI at a later date.

Edit: Just to add to this, you act like setting my type on a forum makes it set in stone. "Don't set your type, you don't know everything there is to know about Socionics yet."

Projection again. This is your false interpretation, not anything I've said or even implied. It isn't unusual for people to change type a time or two until they get it right. A minority continue switching from one to another without ever settling anywhere for long. People also make errors in typing others and are forced to revise their opinions in the face of countervailing evidence. I am not exempt from error myself. But at the same time I try to avoid being wrong by allowing enough evidence to appear that it produces a sufficiently suggestive or coherent pattern before I pipe up too loudly.

I can change it down the road if it turns out to be a fluke, but I don't see that happening.

Have at it, just be careful not to let it taint your understanding of the theory in the meantime.

You're assuming I take VI seriously.

God damn, man. Project-o-Rama 2012. I'm already losing count of how many times you've confused what you think that I think for what it is that I actually think.

There is some validity to it(based on my experience), but I'm still skeptical about it. This thread was made more out of curiosity than serious inquiry.

Glad to hear it, but if you don't know the theory too well than how is one of its controversial identification techniques (i.e. VI) put into experiential use? Let's say you're flying on a jetliner and the pilots and flight attendants are whisked away by a UFO's teleportation beam, leaving the passengers stuck onboard without an air crew. Someone has to land the plane safely or you'll all die in a flaming wreck. There are no pilots onboard of any sort, but some motherfucker says, "Let me in that flight cabin! I've seen Top Gun 40 times and I know from experience how this plane works." Do you trust the aforementioned motherfucker to know what he's doing?

No, but you implied it. You basically said, "you're talking out your ass."

Finally, a valid inference without undue projection. Kudos, my man. Personally I don't know Diam0nd for shit since she (???) has a rather low profile, and as for Maritsa, well... If you stick around the forum let's just say that you'll either continue agreeing with her or you'll try to keep at least one piece of furniture between her and yourself.

5w4.

If you reject 6 on the basis of it being fearful/anxious it's strange you'd prefer the equally fearful/anxious 5. And 4 wing on top of it? We'll see about that.

I prefer to keep my occupation a secret.

I was talking about ICP, not OPP, but congrats on either being innocent of the former or fronting that you don't know what it means.

The more detailed posts are appreciated, by the way.