I've been wondering if A-model changes in case of subtypes? Is your POLR different? I mean assuming I'm IEE Fi, is my A-model the same as the one of INFj?
Subtypes and A-model
I've been wondering if A-model changes in case of subtypes? Is your POLR different? I mean assuming I'm IEE Fi, is my A-model the same as the one of INFj?
No, subtypes never override the main type.Originally Posted by Pauluch
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
1) your PoLR could technically be more obvious when you emphasize your creative function.
2) no, your model A is never the same as your mirror. Think about the issue as if temperaments were fixed (EP having a base perceiving extraverted function and a creative judging introverted function), and functions change. Then ENFp-Fi is more similar to ESFp than ENFp-Ne, but no comparison can be made with another temperament, so we can't say if it's more or less similar to an INFj.
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I think he means Fi-ENFp is more similar to ESFp than ENTp. Ne-ENFp and Fi-ENFp are the closest.
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I think that even if you can be various subtype, your first function stay "accepting", and second stay "creative", ect. Ie if you a IEE-Fi, you (over)use Fi as a creative function and not accepting, a things wich differentiate really you from your mirror.
Your model A will stay IEE, technically speaking.
"accepting" use is really different than "creative" use, its obvious when when you meet your mirror
first step to easily demonstrate that their is not socionic at allAnd don't believe the hype. There is no definitive subtype theory. Anyone who claims expertise is a false prophet.
"The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."
-- Maurice Chapelain
ENFp-Fi is more similar to ESFp when compared to ENFp-Ne. Thus ESFp and ENFp-Ne are further apart than ESFp and ENFp-Fi.
The measurement is generally considered as pertaining to the reinin dichotomies. I have no real awareness of other means. So if someone rejects reinin dichtomies, subtype recognition becomes problematic.
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What you mean is that strengtened creative imply strengtened normative function ? Just a question.ENFp-Fi is more similar to ESFp
"The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."
-- Maurice Chapelain
Well, in a way yes, because the stress on the accepting Ne behaviors and characteristics is less emphasized, thus the difference with an ESFp's Se is not as obvious.
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i could see it working the other way around, i.e. if you focus very hard on Cre-Ne you can get a result that stands against an Se "assault" (in INxjs' case). the vulnerability consists in how it takes that much focus to reach a less vulnerable state.1) your PoLR could technically be more obvious when you emphasize your creative function.
Fi-IEE is very similar to Fi-SEE, the same as Ne-IEE is to Ne-ILE.. can often be difficult to decide between kindred & business with the identical subtypes. The conscious functions are more or less the same. Take Ne-IxE for example. Accentuate Ne base, subdue Ji creative. I really dunno how the super-ego, super-id or id are affected though.
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