Sounds like Ti HA lolOriginally Posted by Tallmo
Sounds like Ti HA lol
All proponents of both MBTI and Socionics would say the same as you - but my estimation is likely closer to the process source that creates the observations.
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Last edited by Rebelondeck; 11-14-2020 at 09:43 AM.
No it sounds like like an initial rough descriptive draft of computer's architectural component. Or something along those lines.
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To understand Si one can compare it with Ni. (they are related)
Ni monitors the fluctuations of the unconscious, the "undercurrents" that are sortof the background of concrete reality.
Si does kindof the same, but it is more shallow and it just senses the impressions from the unconscious. It is perceived as something totally genuine and natural but it can also feel foreign.
Both Si and Ni can be felt as mystical experience but Si lacks any kind of insight or "vision". It simply senses.
Thanks to Si everything around you feels a little more "organic", a little more "deep", or "genuine".
Si is pretty much impossible to understand from just observing a person. They seem to be "taking in" the environment, but what they actually "see" is hidden. It gets even more difficult because most healthy Si bases are adapted and have developed weak functions in order to deal with everyday life. The glimpse of Si can be spotted when they take a rest or are allowed to behave freely without any restrictions, or when they suddenly forget to concentrate on the task.
Last edited by Tallmo; 11-13-2020 at 07:09 PM.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Si is enjoying life in a parallel world in your imagination, but instead of just seeing it, you can actually feel it as though it was real.
You get input from the environment (that can be your own brain btw) and transform that into an abstract input that your body feels as a very personal reality
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
What happens when a Si base takes a rest?
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
I can just "chill" for many many hours in a vegetative state, especially in new and different environments like the beach or lake where there's wind and sound and many things are moving in the background. But at least at home, to simply feel temperature, warmth, softness, taste and adjusting for max coziness is way too boring and unstimulating after a while. It's all good and stuff but there's way more levels to it.
I think I like to experiment with different types of tastes and sensations.
Activities that are very Si I partake in:
Organizing playlists, combining songs in ways where each playlist has a different taste too it
Making Pinterest boards of various internet aesthetics and things I find interesting or pretty: abandoned greenhouses, lost toys, porcelain dolls
Looking up various artists I like a lot and studying their style and vibes very seriously
Thinking of various people who's clothing styles I admire and mix-and-matching the parts I like from them in my head
Decorating my room with various knick knacks (cloud shaped humidifier, small music box, stuffed animals, hanging photos and art on the wall)
Photography, I very much the style old film creates, too bad they're so expensive
Collecting bits of stationary with cool features, I love drafting pencils and highlighters
The places I like to visit that have nice Si vibes:
Art museums
Small bookshops
Milk-based shaved ice restaurant
Local family-owned restaurants
Coffee shops
Antique stores
Candy shops
Si people's homes lol
Parks and biking along rivers
Last edited by Tzuyu; 11-13-2020 at 09:16 PM.
These are all things I've always wanted to do, and appreciate those who do it, but I simply don't have time for that or whatever.I can just "chill" for many many hours in a vegetative state, especially in new and different environments like the beach or lake where there's wind and sound and many things are moving in the background. But at least at home, to simply feel temperature, warmth, softness, taste and adjusting for max coziness is way too boring and unstimulating after a while. It's all good and stuff but there's way more levels to it.
I think I like to experiment with different types of tastes and sensations.
Activities that are very Si I partake in:
Organizing playlists, combining songs in ways where each playlist has a different taste too it
Making Pinterest boards of various internet aesthetics and things I find interesting or pretty: abandoned greenhouses, lost toys, porcelain dolls
Looking up various artists I like a lot and studying their style and vibes very seriously
Thinking of various people who's clothing styles I admire and mix-and-matching the parts I like from them in my head
Decorating my room with various knick knacks (cloud shaped humidifier, small music box, stuffed animals, hanging photos and art on the wall)
Photography, I very much the style old film creates, too bad they're so expensive
Collecting bits of stationary with cool features, I love drafting pencils and highlighters
The places I like to visit that have nice Si vibes:
Art museums
Small bookshops
Milk-based shaved ice restaurant
Local family-owned restaurants
Coffee shops
Antique stores
Candy shops
Si people's homes lol
Parks and biking along rivers
I simply forget that these things exist really. They seem like a waste of time, but once you do them, you feel different
Seems like everyone out there is doing them, except me. That's how I feel
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Augusta had to change Jung's definition quite a bit to get it to work as a part of Model A.
"harmony, pleasure, health, comfort, pleasantness, satisfaction, convenience, quality, cosiness, aesthetics"
These are all indeed Si themes, however most of them are only external indicators of sustainability, which means preserving life on its physical, mental, and (if awakened) spiritual levels.
silke's mentioning of stability sort of gets at this; unfortunately she also removed some of the perfectly valid descriptions above from wikisocion.
Can aesthetics be Se too?
No. Se seeks out and strives for intense experiences and that’s from directly interacting with concrete objects and physical activities. Se is focused on the concrete attributes of an object which is emphasized and immediate influence to change the object happens at that moment. It’s resourceful and adaptive, whereas lifestyles and aesthetics has to do with Si because it’s established, comfortable sensations that’s derived from one’s impressions felt by objects. Si emphasize the impressions caused by an object to establish homeostasis gained from the knowledge of gathered impression.
An abstract concept applied to real (usually) people.
What about p-zombies? Are they real?
The sound of the bells are unusually loud today...
I don't think it makes any practical difference to me. I don't think they're falsifiable.
Si is the information of how objects in a space interect with each other to create a vibe, sensation, or aesthetic feeling
Si is about dynamic processes that can be perceived through senses, within a relatively short period of time so that the relations between them are more or less evident. (More long-term or abstract processes would be Ni.)
There’s a system, for example an organism. There are different processes taking place simultaneously within that system. They can get influenced by external factors, or an internal reaction can trigger/inhibit another reaction etc.
Si-perception means being able to trace back a reaction within the system to a specific stimulus. Or being aware of how an overall state is the result of many different factors. For example, someone’s physical state can be influenced by food (what was eaten, when, how much), sleep (how many hours, how long ago), energy (how much has been spent, in what way) – these are more about the body’s internal dynamics. Then there are more external factors in the immediate surroundings: temperature, light, noise, amount of space etc.
With enough experience you are able to predict the factors that will likely come into play in a given situation and their effects on your physical state. You may also know how to neutralize, minimalize or intensify that influence – what to do in the moment it happens or beforehand. It can be about reaching a balance between impulses that have opposite effects or combining stimuli with similar effects. In general, you know how to control what happens to and within your body. Of course, all that can be applied to another person or a group of people, though you would need some second hand information as every organism reacts a bit differently. And then Si isn’t limited to human experience, it may involve knowing how to take care of pets, plants, whole ecosystems, how to make mechanisms work smoothly, how weather conditions affect different materials etc.
Si-perception depends on Se – the ability to assess apparent, static characteristics of objects (static = as observed in a moment). Basically, to know how something will influence you, you must be aware of its qualities: the height of the temperature, the volume of the noise, the size and fabric of the clothes etc. They’re both Sensing elements and you can’t have one without the other.
Okay, then no Ballsack for you!
See Ballsack sees everyone in layers of NPCness. You can often see them walking down the street with an invisible video game controller, obsessively navigating everyone's narrative loops. The greater the variation in action and dialogue, the more bewildered they become and the more they start to become drawn to the person. This is why their SEE dual is their best partner. They can never quite figure out what's going on in the mind of the SEE; but perhaps it never occurred to Ballsack, it might not be a mind of high level chess, but the mind of a true random generator! For Ballsack, he will be forever captivated.
The sound of the bells are unusually loud today...
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