How can you recognize them in people and how would a Fe-vulnerable, Te-vulnerable, etc. act?
I know they are also refered as PoLR but it looks like the name of a russian cereals brand so I prefer "vulnerable function".
Vulnerable functions
How can you recognize them in people and how would a Fe-vulnerable, Te-vulnerable, etc. act?
I know they are also refered as PoLR but it looks like the name of a russian cereals brand so I prefer "vulnerable function".
They simply can't handle the patterns associated to those functions; don't understand them, or see a use for them. To wit:
Fe- Complete lack of any outward expression. No understanding of emotions in others; thinks they're empty histrionics.
Fi- No conscience or responsibility for others' inner emotional comfort, is genuinely surprised when they something offensive and people actually are offended, inability to tell what a person's feeling without a clear outward display.
Se- No respect for hierarchy, dislike of either leading or being led, poor ability to assert oneself.
Si- Poor maintenance of one's body, no sense of aesthetics, no concern for minor or administrative details, ignoring sensory pleasures in favor of more subjectively important considerations (productivity in the case of LIEs, fun or passionate pursuits in the case of EIEs).
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Jokes about ripping peoples' limbs off (like Weird Al).
Never trust them regarding food. They have no taste buds.
Poker face.
Vulnerable functions:
Can't parallel park
Develops hives after making physical contact with numbers
You would describe Se polr like this? Sounds pretty random, but I guess it was a joke anyway.Originally Posted by Director Abbie
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
That sounds like
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
No. Incapable of defending or sticking up to their own will, manifests in lowest energy of all sociotypes. Pushes for something, doesn't know or can't feel the response or level of penetration each of their words has made an impact on others; poor ability to manipulate others or does not know when to wait for the moment of optimal advantage; has poor ability to sense the reaction they make on others; doesn't know how they come off or look to the world around them so will use basic rules to follow to maintain an "image" that others can look up to. Inability to live in the present sensory moment; always living in the past and in the future.
Yes to poor ability to assert oneself, but more from poor ability in accurately assessing what their assertion has effected others' viewpoints; how they have changed the object by what they said. What impact it has made upon the object.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
not knowing how theyve changed/what impact theyve made on the object...i relate to that more than any other description of se polr ive seen, i think. i like that it doesnt have to do with willpower or desire.
edit: i totally zeroed in on that and neglected that other parts of the post did mention will...haha. oh well, im still pleased.
Maritsa, have you noticed yet no one here takes you seriously?
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Article on polr:
http://en.socionics.ru/index.php?opt...251&Itemid=139
Thank you.
Works for me.Will sensorics
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
All the ways in which my boyfriend helps me by taking the pressure off of my vulnerable function, called Se, which lives in the moment and not in the future and in the past:
1. He decides about the material objects I should get for the home. (Ties to objects are associated with Extraverted Sensing).
2. When he tells me to forget about things bug me and live in the moment; these are usually things that have allowed me to sink into my emotions and carry a melancholy face in silence for a while. He tells me to enjoy what we're doing at the moment because that's what we're doing.
3. When he keeps switching to walk on the side of the road in his chivalrous protective modes.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
That does not mean her post is invalid. I thought her post on
I think outright incapability is a bit over the top, if pushed right I can actually over do theIncapable of defending or sticking up to their own will
The mode of goodness conditions one to happiness, passion conditions him to the fruits of action, and ignorance to madness.
Chapter 14, Verse 9.
The Bhagavad Gita
I highly doubt being a gentleman is type-related.
Yes, postponing hits my
Yes, I don't see polr as incapability in that way, it's more being unbalanced, uncreative and unsure in these matters.
I think outright incapability is a bit over the top, if pushed right I can actually over do theIncapable of defending or sticking up to their own will
Nobody here should take anybody seriously, actually...
We're all just stating our neurotic middle class opinions and perceptions on the world.
I can also parallel park EXTREMELY well. ROFLMAO. But I know you're just trolling/joking as usual k0rpsey. =D
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