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    So, I go over to dinner at my mom's last night and my SEE cousin is there. She's very picky about her food and my mom naturally cooks what she likes; they are duals; it must be a dual thing. I start telling them about me possibly trying out raw milk that has not been pasteurized and my SEE cousin goes into a panic attack. My mom's very silent about it and uses Te, thank goodness, to explain that farmers used to drink it all the time and nothing happened to them and the hype about non pasteurized milk may be a bit over exaggerated. Anyway. My cousin goes on about me trying goat milk...goat milk...goat milk...I'll stop saying that in a while. I must not be all that thrilled about going from raw milk to goat milk and I wonder if someone would explain to me how my mom goes from not being okay with raw milk and going out (I should say RUSHING out) and buying me goat milk. Is this an introverted rational?
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    Goat milk is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Just tell them: "I'm not a freakin' goat to be drinking goat's milk." That's like a typical XLI thing to say, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Goat milk is good.
    And cheese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Goat milk is good.
    And cheese.
    Oh yes, cheese is good, too. Primarily cheddar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    I love all sorts of dairy stuffs.

    And, I want to get a goat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    And, I want to get a goat.
    Don't we all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
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    I get raw milk. It's pricey but good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    I get raw milk. It's pricey but good.
    Really? What do you know about it? Is it tested and safe?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I must not be all that thrilled about going from raw milk to goat milk and I wonder if someone would explain to me how my mom goes from not being okay with raw milk and going out (I should say RUSHING out) and buying me goat milk. Is this an introverted rational?
    Not sure whether it's TR but she interpreted that since the name doesn't contain "raw" it's fine - she associates "raw" with that possible danger to get sick. I would say it's a bit specific to ISFx, out of my experience.

    Yeah, she can play up her Si role well, but my mom's usually not this proactive about doing these kinds of things for me. I wonder if it's because she senses something in me she doesn't like...IDK...she might think I'm not going very well and want's to take care of me?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Really? What do you know about it? Is it tested and safe?
    As a kid I was not usually allowed to drink milk before boiling it, though I drank it raw from time to time and nothing happened, no diarrhea or anything. It's just the rule, AFAIK it may happen to get sick if the animal eats some whatever bacteria, so adults don't want to risk.
    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    And, I want to get a goat.
    Goats are really cool but they require a lot of time, though I'm not sure how different breeds behave. They IME don't eat grass and don't feed in one place like cows and sheep, additionally they're sometimes very stubborn and may get lost. Chasing a goat can be a thorny experience .
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    Don't we all?
    Only Irrationals truly want goats, Rationals think they want goats but they want them be sheep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    I get raw milk. It's pricey but good.
    Really? What do you know about it? Is it tested and safe?
    The animals are tested regularly for the diseases that get passed into milk. I don't know if they test every batch of milk or not.

    The thing about food is you can get food poisoning from so many sources. We got it from broccoli once. It has been in spinach, tomatoes, and i can't think of what all else. I'm not going to stop eating broccoli, spinach, tomatoes, and every other food that can potentially harbor bacteria. (And these weren't issues where it could be washed off.) You can't eliminate all potential for illness from food, and I feel like the milk we get isn't particularly less safe than anything else. The cows are pasture raised, and the worst illnesses come from cows fed grain in a factory farm setting. Grain is not a cow's natural food and it makes them get sick with the form of e. coli that has caused so much trouble in recent years. And in most farms, animals get each other sick due to how many of them are crammed into a small space. I think what we get is reasonably safe compared to what else is available.

    I've met the farmer and I've seen the farm, and it seems very clean and he appears to be really careful with cleanliness.

    Milk pasteurization is absolutely necessary for most milk because of how the animals are raised, how filthy the farms are, and how the milk is processed.
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    I'd like to drink milk straight from the cow. But store-bought cow milk is store-bought cow milk.

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    I get mine from a local farmer I know. But I own a share of the cow. You can only get milk from cows you own here, so you have to purchase a share of the herd and then you get some of the milk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    The google gave me some reasoning, but it was mostly green-y, organic-y, raw-food-y, I'm-better-than-you-'cause-I'm-different-y stuff.
    The google provided exactly what I thought it would. Goooooood google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I must not be all that thrilled about going from raw milk to goat milk and I wonder if someone would explain to me how my mom goes from not being okay with raw milk and going out (I should say RUSHING out) and buying me goat milk. Is this an introverted rational?
    Not sure whether it's TR but she interpreted that since the name doesn't contain "raw" it's fine - she associates "raw" with that possible danger to get sick. I would say it's a bit specific to ISFx, out of my experience.
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