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I also say ILI for you, Jinxi. You are not emotive at all, you seem to be operating from a standpoint of logic, and you have a really grounded quality here, maybe more apparent because of the contrast to your sister, but still ... I noticed that in your other videos, too. Those things fit with ILI to me. (Seeing you as an Ni-ego introvert is something I'm taking for granted after previous threads.) I don't see you as a crazedrat clone, btw. Some points in common in your text-based online personas, but not enough to qualify as clones.
I think ENFp could work for your sister. And she would drive me bananas (désolée, soeur de Jinxi, c'ést juste la vérité). She doesn't come across as having IJ or EJ temperament, seems ethical and infantile.
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Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
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After watching that video, I'm pretty strongly in the ILI camp for Jinxi. IEE seems like a good match for his sister.
Looking back, I'm pretty sure my reasons for initially leaning IEI for Jinxi were shitty ones. I've since grown increasingly partial to seeing him as ILI and the video pretty well solidifies that impression.
I know you think I'm IEI Jinxi, but for what it's worth I feel I relate to you like an identical.
why IEE for his sister?
Personally I couldn't see an IEE responding that way to someone who genuinely wanted a serious discussion. And, not to say that all IEEs will find interest in socionics, but if there were a type that was more inclined to take an interest in socionics, I'd think it would be IEE. At the least, I would think they would take an interest in self-analysis or psychological-analysis. IEEs can be odd, but I couldn't see them blatantly ignoring someone who wants to discuss something for the sake of being odd.
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Yet I acknowledge and admit my weaknesses where LIIs excel.
To be relevant, I still hold IEI. But like everyone has said already, Baseis clear.
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Only as a red herring to maintain your delusional fetish of being Jung's identical.
I believe that I am ILI, and when I observe others whom I type ILI (especially those younger than me) I am often struck with an eery sense of familiarity. Observing ILI's sharing their thoughts or interacting with others, I'll periodically realize they've fallen into some sort of an interpersonal dynamic or way of handling/processing a situation that I have fallen into countless times. To watch this play out as an outside observer provokes a hard-to-describe sense of deja vu whereby I feel that I know the exact thoughts, feelings and impulses racing through the other's mind and am all too well aware of how the various ways of reacting to them are likeliest to play out. In such cases I find myself taking a vested interest in the other, hoping he/she'll not make the same mistakes I have regretted making in the past. As a consequence, I am especially proud of my identicals when they handle a situation well and especially disappointed with them when I feel they've handled a situation poorly.
I notice that I get this identical vibe fairly frequently around Jinxi (much more often than with Crazedrat, Siuntal, and other self typed IEI's around the forum). My impression is that K0rp felt much the same way when Jinxi arrived on the scene. Unfortunately, there was some sort of falling out and K0rp was especially perturbed by Jinxi's handling of the situation. I think Jinxi let down K0rpsey's expectations of him, and that this bothered K0rp much more so than did any of the insults Jinxi slung his way.
Jinxi, you're very likely ILI, with a possible chance of SLI. When you asked about the teacher's height, eye color, tone of voice, etc., it all seemed very Si-valuing to me. I actually think the Te is a bit more obvious than the Ni, although I see both.
And your sister is Ne-leading. Not sure between ILE or IEE, would have to see more. (If you can bribe her into doing another video with you again, haha!)
i wish this wasn't true because i'm not the bitch i used to be, but god damn it your sister gave me flashbacks of a girl i used to make fun of from 6th grade until maybe 11th. her personality just made me ridiculously angry and i couldn't handle it. what was interesting about her — and perhaps her most annoying quality — was that nothing that i or my friends did would phase her. we'd make hints that we don't like her, and she'd ignore us. we'd make it obvious, and she'd ignore us. it's like she didn't give a shit how much people disliked her, she'd still stick around us for some reason. she has the same sense of humor as your sister.
like i said, i'm not as much of a bitch as i used to be, but i think i'd relapse into a bully again if i had to spend more than 30 seconds with your sister. i sincerely don't mean this to make anyone feel bad, just being honest. hopefully it helps in some twisted intertype relation way.
jinx i think you're INXp. your sister is probably my opposing quadra, whichever that may be. getting crazy Ne leading vibes off her though
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
I can immediately think of 4 individuals I've known fairly well to very well in real life that I consider my identical. I'm certain I've dealt superficially with many others, but socionics usually works poorly for me on people I don't know well.
i had to think about that. i guess...nah, not really.
i guess the difference is in that on video i can see the genuineness of your emotional output (or maybe genuineness isn't the right word for the sake of unbiasedness or something but more like its easier to feel you or sth). but in text i wonder more about your motivations, how much you're probing for reaction or putting emotion out for the purpose of stirring shit up.
Your sister reminds me of Thanks Arthur The Egbert Human, so that would make her ILE.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
What a cute video! You guys seem to have a good relationship. I want to see you like on one of those cute family sitcoms, it seems appropriate.
I can understand your desire to focus the discussion, but I think you're putting too much of the pressure/focus on her because you personally are too deflated to handle/initiate it, or you are the type of person who deals with things by pushing the focus onto other people. And she's reacting by tuning you out a bit, but in a way she's still accommodating you by accepting being focused on. It might be an ExFp way of dealing with things, I don't know. I just perceive that in a way she doesn't care, but in a way she's actually affected by the way you are talking to her and she's trying not to care and mostly succeeding (at least on the outside). And yet she's still protecting you in a way. I think with the Delta NFs I have known, yeah their Ne is just wacky, but sometimes they actually have an (strong?) opinion on the subject and something against their ethical values holds them back from conversing in a more direct manner. It may be for a multitude of reasons. It may be to protect against getting hurt, like you mentioned.
From what I perceive she is being pretty patient with you and tuning out the parts she doesn't like so she can have a workably pleasant relationship with you. Maybe she sees your soul or believes in the part of you that just acts like Scrooge. I hope I'm not projecting here. Try to take this with a grain of salt. But in general I'm a little uncomfortable with her level of tolerance. I am itching to tell her to tell you to just fuck off already. I would not be a happy camper if someone spoke to me the way you speak to her.
If I'm a-NT, then theres nothing that should annoy me about IEE or ESE. IOW, her emotions about things seem kind of over the top for me, and if I were alpha then that wouldn't annoy me. But if I'm ILI,also equally likely, then IEE or ESE might be a rather good typing for her/makes sense from my POV. I don't currently understand why an IEE would be that silly though, unless that's just pure. So there's my 2 cents.
it seems like people are skeptical about her being a serious type because of the level of her silliness but i'm not really buying that. she's also a teenager (i think?) who is overly tired. i remember being like 15 and laughing my ass off on the phone in the middle of the night with my probably EII best friend about stupid shit like the idea of dancing broccolli. and her behavior is also in the context of her interaction with jinxi, which dolphin had some brilliant stuff to say about.
For me, it's not because of her level of silliness. Hell, I act like that more often than I'd like to admit. It's because of how she blatantly ignores jinxi's efforts to switch into a serious gear. But, then again, idk what lead up to this video or the relationship they have so.. really it is kind of a moot point.
You seem frustrated at the lack of focus, but you're not being respectful, and I'm not sure what to think about it. She doesn't seem like deserves to be talked to that way. She's having fun with the light on her face changing as she moves around. She's like preoccupied with it. She seems like she needs to be hugged and protected and smiled at. Part of me says RAWR U JERKWAD and part of me thinks that you're doing your best and you're deflated enough that you couldn't realistically sustain a higher level of interaction at this point. She understands that, consciously or unconsciously, and is putting up with you out of love. I'm just guessing here though. I don't know the context enough to contribute anything more.
I'm remembering when she said I was more IEE than she was. Wow. And no, I don't know what type she is. She's pretty spastic, though.
I don't know what type you are, either. The whole "FOCUS!" bit was pretty amusing, though.
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Illusionary partners looks funny to people watching. It said that in Renin download able book that was available here a while back, and I do think so in looking at real life interaction. his sister IEE and him ILI.
That dynamic "funny"-ness is like how this video shows.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
The My leading function (which shows damn well in public interactions) is your Ignoring function. So it gives the other partner to not take each other serious kinda mocking each other. and on occasion,the conversation clicks through the Creative/HA so it's doesn't look like contrary, where in contrary relationship, each side will fight and show their own strongest point, sort of like what socionics.com description say on contrary relationship.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
Cool video!
I could tell the both of you were trying to get a conversation going, though it wasn't quite connecting, and each person was kinda goingat the other person
I suspected you of being ILI, her of being IEE, and the Illusionary type relationship pretty much seals the deal on that one for me
About that... people under stress lock harder into their type then than ever - and what I saw in the moderator specific threads screamedNo problem.
Guess I'll be "depressed" and untypeable for the rest of my life.-valuing, like insanely hard, and you and discojoe looked a lot like Activity partners in that one part (probably due to being Activity partners)
IEI for the Jinxi, my Semi-Dual!
Start a fourth (fifth?) poll, keep the attention streaming in.
It was that you wanted, much more than anything, for a sense of fairness and consistency, the same rules for everyone, stuff along those lines, instead of approaching it from a "this way of doing things isn't working" angle - the Activity relation between you and discojoe sealed the deal for you as IEI and was pretty awesome
I think that's why a lot of us were really happy when we saw you smile
And yep, there's no box that can hold an IEI
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