This is better

[717495]

sentiments and feelings are different things.

Are they really that inseparable?

[Marie84]

firstly I should apologize for the late reply, haven't been on here lately

well that description was from my my POV as somebody who uses Fe as an ego function

I'm not disagreeing with how you process things, just how you assigned it to the IE usage

the above just repeats the same point twice, not sure what you're trying to point out here

I guess you can call that, extraverted ethics Fe as "external use" of introverted ethics Fi

as LL pointed out, sentiments and emotions are not exactly the same in regards to how they're described in Model A
When you're using Fi you're evaluating the interpersonal sentiments (repulsion/attraction) regardless if it involves yourself in the equation.
When you're using Fe you're evaluating the mood (happy/sad, etc).
Being that when you're strong in one ethical IE you're in the other, it's expected that you'd pick-up on Fi cues without question even though you don't value it

So basically my point is that Fi doesn't become Fe because it involves evaluating the attraction between people not involving yourself

In normal everyday situations demonstrative Fi is thoroughly blocked out by Ti. Fi is assigned to be part of the unvalued block in xEIs for a reason.

I understand, but you still aren't strong in Ti even though you value it, whereas you're strong in Fi despite that you devalue it

[Marie84]

Late reply? I checked, and this is your first post in this thread.

it's on this page here http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...&postcount=165

[Marie84]

Damn, I am bad.

Siuntal linked me to four videos of MBTI INFJs. Woot.

What type do you think Jinxi is? You've been rather kind to him, so your opinion would be appreciated.

Oh, siuntal, you make it seem as if IEIs only have conscious control over Ni, Fe, Ti and Se. Simulating Fi? Lulz.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think Ni dominant makes sense so far, you at least seem comfortable with an Se atmosphere

[ashlesha]

Are they really that inseparable?

yeah, i'd say they're inseparable. (so i think i agree with you?) thats why i'm inclined to think we use unvalued functions.

[ashlesha]

jinxi what do you think your type probably is and why?

[woofwoofl]

No problem.

Guess I'll be "depressed" and untypeable for the rest of my life.

About that... people under stress lock harder into their type then than ever - and what I saw in the moderator specific threads screamed -valuing, like insanely hard, and you and discojoe looked a lot like Activity partners in that one part (probably due to being Activity partners)

IEI for the Jinxi, my Semi-Dual!

[Korpsy Knievel]

Start a fourth (fifth?) poll, keep the attention streaming in.

[woofwoofl]

Oh, can you explain to me how that was Ti-valuing?

I was just trying to build my case, you know, win.

Looks like I lost, so I don't care.

It was that you wanted, much more than anything, for a sense of fairness and consistency, the same rules for everyone, stuff along those lines, instead of approaching it from a "this way of doing things isn't working" angle - the Activity relation between you and discojoe sealed the deal for you as IEI and was pretty awesome

I think that's why a lot of us were really happy when we saw you smile a friend of mine is IEI and he kinda went a bit flat on that front, and he's not doing too well (he keeps going people-in-the-white-coats level crazy)... and running amok can be rough as hell, and moreso to the person on the inside of it all than anyone else...

And yep, there's no box that can hold an IEI