Dynamic worldview - static Self. Static worldview - dynamic Self.

[Gilly]

Yeah, if anything I would say that our worldview is based mostly on the first function; after all, it is the lense through which we see the world.

[Creepy-]

Static worldview = Self changes, not the world around someone. The same thing is always there, one just perceives it differently.

I'm not sure about the implications of a Dynamic worldview, or even if the above is correct... the more I think about the implications of Dynamic worldview yielding a Static Self, the more doubts I have towards the whole concept.

I'm not sure if having a Static or Dynamic worldview implies a Dynamic or Static Self, necessarily. Like I said, it doesn't make much sense to me that the Self would change but the worldview would remain the same. That is what I assume you mean from Static Self/Dynamic worldview, anyway...

I think you need to define these concepts for greater clarity, then shall come the critiquing/answers to your question.

[Creepy-]

Yeah, if anything I would say that our worldview is based mostly on the first function; after all, it is the lense through which we see the world.

Worldview is also influenced a lot by the demonstrative function.

[EyeSeeCold]

I guess I've induced confusion by choosing the wrong words. This is what I mean:


1.
Dynamic Mental Consciousness - How you perceive the world
Static Vital Unconsciousness - How you perceive yourself

The world is dynamic yet the self is static. The person feels as if everything is changing but their own self.

2.
Static Mental Consciousness - How you perceive the world
Dynamic Vital Unconsciousness - How you perceive yourself

The world is static yet the self is dynamic. The person feels as if everything is lifeless / motionless and only the person is alive.

[Creepy-]

Ok, so "Self" essentially refers to one's perception towards himself in relation to the world. Understood.

How is the Self perceived in terms of the Vital functions?

[EyeSeeCold]

Ok, so "Self" essentially refers to one's perception towards himself in relation to the world. Understood.

How is the Self perceived in terms of the Vital functions?

The Vital functions are what define us to us, which is why it is vital that those aspects are in suitable condition. If you're a master in your Vital aspects(SuperId+Id), suddenly your perception of the world is not so oppressive.

Also, when their is no active problem, the Self takes the Vital functions for granted.

[Gilly]

You are either literally making this up, or are misinterpreting what Model A is about. The Super-Id operates something like the Lacanian "other," but not exactly; we project our super-id onto other people in the sense that it forms our views and expectations of how others should behave, how we would like others to communicate, but it does not translate into a global worldview in the sense that you are implying.

[Gilly]

Basically you are making classic Ti presumptive leaps. More evidence for Ti dominant.

[EyeSeeCold]

You are either literally making this up, or are misinterpreting what Model A is about. The Super-Id operates something like the Lacanian "other," but not exactly; we project our super-id onto other people in the sense that it forms our views and expectations of how others should behave, how we would like others to communicate, but it does not translate into a global worldview in the sense that you are implying.

I stated Ego+SuperEgo = Worldview. SuperId+Id = Self.

Basically you are making classic Ti presumptive leaps. More evidence for Ti dominant.

lol
Te assumes Ti / reason. Arrogant views.
Ti assumes Te / application. Ignorant views.

[The Ineffable]

Basically you are making classic Ti presumptive leaps. More evidence for Ti dominant.

That means EyeSeeCold = Ti-Base or Ti-Ego? I actually tend to agree with the latter - opinion accumulated in time.
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EyeSeeCold: IMO types view both the self and the environment as Dynamic or Static, as the Mental assumes. I can connect this to something I observed long time ago, that Dynamic types can't evaluate themselves but by their deeds, actions or facts, the reason why they need constant assurance from the Static types of their identity, value, "type", etc.

And think about the fact that the Static functions are relational, including regarding the self - "how do I compare/relate to ...?", "what I have in common with ...?", while the Dynamic ones tell how things manifest, affect and interact with each other - "how does ... affect me?", "how do I affect ...?". I don't see a difference being made between self and outside world, unless this "self" you refer to means something different than this common understanding. Also, the Vital ring is unconscious AFAIK, I don't know how it can be part of the awareness of self, too.

[Beautiful sky]

Basically you are making classic Ti presumptive leaps. More evidence for Ti dominant.

He's not. I benefit from his Te, hence benefit relations. I am drawn to the way he explains things because they are clear, simple, concise, efficient, and highly accurate and not on personal subjective evaluation from the function of T...so, it's Te not Ti.

this is how I see/experience it too.

Which part? The one where you can't evaluate yourself?

[Olduvai]

Basically you are making classic Ti presumptive leaps. More evidence for Ti dominant.

This comment is so goddamn ignorant, it makes me steam.