enneagram type one wings: 1w9 vs 1w2

[squark]

Those of you that know the enneagram pretty well, how would you classify the differences between these two wings? What stands out the most for differentiating the two?

[UDP]

the w2 is more chipper and 'helpful'. they tend to be drawn to doing things, even in your type as an LSI, that will create a situation of "doing a favor" for someone. They seem a lot closer to E3s than the 1w9s; 1w9s are more stoic.

Dr Phil might be an LSI 1w2
uhh Hank hill is a classic LSE but he's a 1w9 I'd say, and can resemble an LSI


Both elements of 1 will have a "rightness" about them, but the 2ws will come aross as more personal in a 2/engaging way, and the 9 wings will be more sort of detached in how they are right.

Spock is 1w9, or at least resembles it more than say Dr Phil does, who is more like a 1w2

[07490]

Dr Phil might be an LSI 1w2
uhh Hank hill is a classic LSE but he's a 1w9 I'd say, and can resemble an LSI

Yes, its one reason why people think Abbie is a LSI. They resemble a lot of an actual LSI.

[UDP]

LSE's won't react to Fe the same way, though. They aren't looking for 'an emotional release', which LSIs do, even if they put on the stoic face.

[07490]

LSE's won't react to Fe the same way, though. They aren't looking for 'an emotional release', which LSIs do, even if they put on the stoic face.

True. But, I can't help to think that LSI 1w9, especially compare to other LSIs, If they react to Fe comparable to LSE 1's, especially to more outlandish extrovert emotions because deep inside they want to control/contain themselves; self control.

[Absurd]

I've studied enneagram for nearly 34 years and found out that 1w9 is the Obersturmführer subtype.

[07490]

hmm squark you look like a classic sp/sx LSI-Ti 1w9 to me. but then of course people will always have their alternative wing showing up from time to time. But fundamentally, your natural wing is like more "automatic".


I have observed quite a few LSIs in past years, but its nothing in depth. one kind of LSI who seems to process a heavy 2 wing is So/Sp E-1. like they have a sense of responsibility to take care of significance, whoever they are, society/family/best friend.

LSI-c like your type just doesn't have this obvious sense of need to take care of other or even control others if their 2 wing manifest to that way.

But hey since sp/sx is so formidably bond to those they care deeply, and its a matter of life commitment, I wouldn't be surprise if you guys do whatever it will take to care for those people. "the quiet supporter" is really a great word to describe this subtype.

[Ave]

2 wing is more people oriented and controlling and critical of people. They also have a desire to be more helpful. They also might be a bit fluffier in their opinions then 1W9, who have more cold worldviews. Ayn Rand was a good example of 1W9, Dr phil of 1W2 I would say.

[07490]

Okay. I'm not sp primary though, and I'm Se>Ti subtype.

Really? oh I thought you are SP DOminant in a strikingly so way. Ann Rayn is Sp/Sx, and Gilly thinks so too.

[Grizzly]

1w2s express their anger more openly... 1w9s try to appear dispassionate....

[07490]

If I'm angry, it's obvious. Definitely not dispassionate.



Why do you say so? Reading description after description of 1 stackings, and sp primary is not me at all. That is not where I focus, not my main concern.

Aww I don't want to sound like a know it all and tell you what type you are and seems like I know you more than you know yourself.

But I will tell you about my opinion. Social-Sexual-Self preserve is all an instinct, and instinct is something you act on, an approach. I have talked to you a few times I though your energy is directed inward first. I assume you are thinking you are a sexual type, and what I think about you is that you do intrude you sexual energy but is more subtle. since I believe that your first instinct is something you can't control and people later on in their life even realized that they should limit this instinct and not over use it and try to work on their second instinct. The second instinct, people always want to prefect it and it's the one that gives people the most pain because it gives you the most doubt. Sometime I feel like your second instinct is like the producing function in socionics; that you need to produce it and create it thus not too natural and smooth. and your first instinct is like the accepting function in socionics, very much want to limit the use of it as you get older and people don't really need to create this energy as its like automatic.


Back to you I think that LSI-C E-1 are all SP/SX. when I type LSI now I look for these stuff. I can be wrong tho unless I really see another Lsi that contradict this fact I would go head stick with it.