Is this an accurate description of SLI-ISTp?

[Suz]

you know that's not what it is. stop pretending lol.

idk jessica's type. she seems alright.



i will tie you to a chair in the delta quadra damnit.

LOL!!!

[jessica129]

Well if you want to boil it down like that, it all comes down to your understanding of the functions and how you see yourself. Not much I can say on that front.

I think I've educated myself as much as I possibly can on the functions...isn't that what you're supposed to do? lol, gilly just admit you dont have proof

[Gilly]

I think I've educated myself as much as I possibly can on the functions...isn't that what you're supposed to do? lol, gilly just admit you dont have proof

Lol I never said I had proof. I just said what I think, which is really all I have to go on. All we have on this is what we think and what other people think; there is no proof.

[jessica129]

Personally, I just think of the people you remind me most of: MimosaPudica, Idolatrie, ananke, strrrng...all Betas. It's just a certain vibe of insouciance mixed with gravitas; I can't really quantify it, but it's there. Sorry to add to your confusion if I'm doing so, obviously I know what it's like to be out a type, but*shrug* it is what it is.

No it's fine, it actually helps me understand things better so no worries. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never thought of LSI as 'insouciance'...?

[Gilly]

You should look at my material on quadra progression. That might help you make your decision.

[Gilly]

No it's fine, it actually helps me understand things better so no worries. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never thought of LSI as 'insouciance'...?

Insouciant*

They aren't blithe by definition, but I'm just talking about a particular vibe I tend to pick up from Betas. I'm not saying LSIs are all insouciant, or even that you are; it's just a vibe, a snapshot of a part of you that I think I can see. Don't know what else to tell you.

[jessica129]

You should look at my material on quadra progression. That might help you make your decision.

Where is it?

And you're right about 'insouciance' (i had to google that you know, no clue what it meant). I am definetly that for whatever it's worth

[jessica129]

I wan't Jessica back in Beta.

I want to be in both

[stray]

Not to derail too much, but I think quadra differences are way more complicated than they're often presented. There's parts of Beta I like - and despise - and the same can be said for Delta. It's going to be hard for some people to fall in place neatly with any stereotypes at least.

[Gilly]

Not to derail too much, but I think quadra differences are way more complicated than they're often presented. There's parts of Beta I like - and despise - and the same can be said for Delta. It's going to be hard for some people to fall in place neatly with any stereotypes at least.

No shit dude? I've been searching for my type for 6 years

[Gilly]

Where is it?

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ad.php?t=30770

Also I wrote a thread about the Matrix that is a bit less relatable, but more detailed in terms of describing the quadra's concrete roles in archetypal events:

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ad.php?t=30861

I think I also have a thread about it at socionix, but my work computer has some beef with the login system over there so I can't find it; if I remember I'll post it when I get to my comp later.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

You just seem passionate, fiery, intense and umm idk emotional?

I could easily see you as an ENFj, Jessica.

[stray]

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ad.php?t=30770

Also I wrote a thread about the Matrix that is a bit less relatable, but more detailed in terms of describing the quadra's concrete roles in archetypal events:

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ad.php?t=30861

I think I also have a thread about it at socionix, but my work computer has some beef with the login system over there so I can't find it; if I remember I'll post it when I get to my comp later.

So Neo's Se/Ni, you think? I thought he was LII or EII . At least he seemed like it in the beginning Oracle seemed Delta too. Morpheus seemed to be the big Se/Ni element. Neo goes for some wider, less divisive solution in the end.

This is probably all beside the point about the actual story progression though.

No shit dude? I've been searching for my type for 6 years

Great.. I have a lot to look forward to

[Gilly]

So Neo's Se/Ni, you think? I thought he was LII or EII . At least he seemed like it in the beginning Oracle seemed Delta too. Morpheus seemed to be the big Se/Ni element. Neo goes for some wider, less divisive solution in the end.

This is probably all beside the point about the actual story progression though.

Well Neo is a tough one to type. Keanu Reeves is blatanty some Ne dominant, probably ILE-Ti, but the archetypal role of his character is IEI-Ni. Trinity seems rather LSI, and activity seems to fit the general pattern of their relations. He's a Mary Sue in some ways so he's not very easy to type, but archetypally, he's IEI-Ni.

[jessica129]

You just seem passionate, fiery, intense and umm idk emotional?

I could easily see you as an ENFj, Jessica.

lol EIE ?? People just piss me off a lot and I'm okay with vocalizing that when need be. You wouldn't dare call me EIE had you met me IRL...i'm not sure if you were joking or not lol

Gilly, I'm gonna read up on those soon, thanks.

[stray]

Well Neo is a tough one to type. Keanu Reeves is blatanty some Ne dominant, probably ILE-Ti, but the archetypal role of his character is IEI-Ni. Trinity seems rather LSI, and activity seems to fit the general pattern of their relations. He's a Mary Sue in some ways so he's not very easy to type, but archetypally, he's IEI-Ni.

Maybe you're right, and I'm just projecting that archetype on EII. Personally, I am forever dozing off at my computer, searching for the Matrix. I'm an INFP in MBTI, but a lot of Beta seems out of touch with how I see ethics. Since we were discussing stereotypes, I keep picturing these turbulent individuals as IEI. Like Rimbaud or Nietzsche or something along those lines. And like Neitzsche, they seem to champion the worst elements of SLE stereotypes. He even made a philosophy out of it. Personally, I have and will start fights with some people who fit a kind of alphamale meathead stereotype. Some people like that are pretty cool (like we were discussing Mike V in that one thread), but I often wouldn't see them as my duals. It's hard to respect some enough to even argue. I always try to find it in myself to fight them instead.

[Jarno]

Jessica you're SLI-Te.

SLI girls are cool. Too bad I haven't met that many.

[Gilly]

lol EIE ?? People just piss me off a lot and I'm okay with vocalizing that when need be. You wouldn't dare call me EIE had you met me IRL...i'm not sure if you were joking or not lol

Sam is silly.

Gilly, I'm gonna read up on those soon, thanks.

[Gilly]

Jessica you're SLI-Te.

SLI girls are cool. Too bad I haven't met that many.

I'd say Si sub, if anything.

[Gilly]

Maybe you're right, and I'm just projecting that archetype on EII. Personally, I am forever dozing off at my computer, searching for the Matrix. I'm an INFP in MBTI, but a lot of Beta seems out of touch with how I see ethics. Since we were discussing stereotypes, I keep picturing these turbulent individuals as IEI. Like Rimbaud or Nietzsche or something along those lines. And like Neitzsche, they seem to champion the worst elements of SLE stereotypes. He even made a philosophy out of it. Personally, I have and will start fights with some people who fit a kind of alphamale meathead stereotype. Some people like that are pretty cool (like we were discussing Mike V in that one thread), but I often wouldn't see them as my duals. It's hard to respect some enough to even argue. I always try to find it in myself to fight them instead.

Believe it or not, LSEs fit that meathead stereotype just as often, if not moreso, than SLEs.

[Suz]

YEAH HEALTH IS SI

Seriously? How fucking long have you been here now?

I was being tongue-in-cheek, retard.

[Suz]

Well what are the "solid reasons" for SLI/Delta? What kind of proof do you require?

Jessica does not need to state any "solid reasons" to you and the only "proof" should be which type SHE identifies with the most, and which types she feels the most comfortable with.

Doesn't mean she can't also get along with people of other quadras. Heck, i can talk for hours with a couple of beta NFs here and feel fondly towards them.

[Slacker]

I'd say Si sub, if anything.

I agree that if she's SLI, she's Si subtype. I think she probably is SLI, but if she changes back at some point I won't be surprised either.

[jessica129]

I'm not changing back. If I do, it'll be to an incorrect typing.

[Gilly]

Jessica does not need to state any "solid reasons" to you and the only "proof" should be which type SHE identifies with the most, and which types she feels the most comfortable with.

First of all, bitch, it's not about me. All I'm saying is that she should consider LSI; in case you haven't noticed, I'm not pretending to know shit beyond my own opinion. I happen to believe that opinion, and so I represent it, but I'm not trying to force shit on her, so there isn't anything she has to do for me, or vice versa.

Doesn't mean she can't also get along with people of other quadras. Heck, i can talk for hours with a couple of beta NFs here and feel fondly towards them.

HURRRRRRR ok Ashton.

[Suz]

First of all, bitch, it's not about me. All I'm saying is that she should consider LSI; in case you haven't noticed, I'm not pretending to know shit beyond my own opinion. I happen to believe that opinion, and so I represent it, but I'm not trying to force shit on her, so there isn't anything she has to do for me, or vice versa.

you seem to be the only one here forcing Jessica towards a type. And no need for utilizing foul language here, just because i am hindering your efforts to force your opinion onto someone (actually onto multiple people here).

[Suz]

HURRRRRRR ok Ashton.

are you on drugs or something?

[Gilly]

you seem to be the only one here forcing Jessica towards a type. And no need for utilizing foul language here, just because i am hindering your efforts to force your opinion onto someone (actually onto multiple people here).

Oh? And who am I forcing my opinion on?

Hey Jess, am I forcing my opinion on you? Does it feel that way?

Who else? Show of hands?

How about some quotes where I'm beinng "forceful?"

[Gilly]

are you on drugs or something?

No, it's just the same kind of unfalsifiability claim he always pulls to discount others' typings.

[jessica129]

WAIT, are you really ILE?

[Gilly]

WAIT, are you really ILE?

For now, lol. Why, what do you think? (I promise not to steal your thread, just curious)

[jessica129]

For now, lol. Why, what do you think? (I promise not to steal your thread, just curious)

THAT WE'RE SEMI DUALS.

This thread has lost its steam, who cares

[Suz]

No, it's just the same kind of unfalsifiability claim he always pulls to discount others' typings.

so in other words, by saying so in regards to my comment that I get along with people from my opposing quadra, your assertion is that people shouldn't be able to get along with people from other quadras?

It's not an "unfalsifiability claim", and it's not meant to discount anyone's typing. It's just reality.

[Galen]

jessica, gilly, just hurry up and fuck.

[Absurd]

No, it's just the same kind of unfalsifiability claim he always pulls to discount others' typings.

Didn't he type you ILE ?

[Gilly]

so in other words, by saying so in regards to my comment that I get along with people from my opposing quadra, your assertion is that people shouldn't be able to get along with people from other quadras?

It's not an "unfalsifiability claim", it's just reality.

Yes, but it's something that's taken for granted; nothing is a one-to-one correlation in socionics, but little things like getting along with someone are pieces to a larger puzzle that you have to try to put together. You can't just throw out evidence because it's not definitive; that's retarded. It's not even related to anything I'm basing my claims on, anyways; your argument is not only uneducated, it's also completely out of the blue and has nothing to do with anything in this thread except to be a quasi-conciliatory discouragement for further discussion.

[Gilly]

Didn't he type you ILE ?

Yes, not sure what that has to do with anything though.

[Gilly]

jessica, gilly, just hurry up and fuck.

I'm taken

[Absurd]

Yes, not sure what that has to do with anything though.

Nothing, I guess.

[Gilly]

Nothing, I guess.

Silly question, smart answer.