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    I'm trying to get a better idea of what Fi is so I was searching for some examples online (stolen from another forum, sorry) and thought these were good examples, wanted to see if you guys agreed or not or could possibly tell me what this sort of communication might be?

    Good Morning sweetie,

    I know right now you are sleeping and hopefully having some sweet dreams
    Hope you don't mind me calling you darling, sweetie, etc.? Just wanted to write to you cause I stepped outside this morning and saw a beautiful sunrise, and it reminded me of how beautiful I really think you are and how lucky I am to have a great person like you!! And that you said Yes to being my girlfriend, makes me feel so special. & how Thankful I am to have such a special Valentine as you. Can't wait til we can do whatever we please and enjoy our own time together - the sunrises and sunsets and just being in each others company, thats what will make me the happiest person alive - not like I'm not already!

    Thanks for everything darling!!!
    Another :

    Hey sexy!!
    Hope you have a good day
    at work today Each and every time I see you, I get that huge smile on my face - the butterflies in my stomach, like I don't know what to say next. This is a very good thing, and hopefully
    you feel the same way as well. Just waiting for that next moment with you I have so much anticipation I can hardly wait. Sorry - this is just me speaking from the heart again,
    if you don't agree or just want me to shut-up just say so.
    Personally, both examples make me want to vomit. Is this Fi?

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    Both of those makes me want to vomit too.
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    Lol. All these sound too exaggerating for me. I prefer a more subtle form of communication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    Lol. All these sound too exaggerating for me. I prefer a more subtle form of communication.
    Haha, yeah. I can't imagine anyone who'd feel comfortable with this level of cheesiness but I thought maybe Fi would? lol, I don't know. Just trying to understand things better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmall View Post
    Both of those makes me want to vomit too.
    Not just you, lol.

    I can't say it's Fi, Fe or maybe something else because I don't know how these two persons are related. Fi is mainly about knowing how your relationships to people can be evaluated. As a Fi-leading type you are very aware of who your friends or your enemies are. That means this message could mean very different things, it would be easier to say if we had the reaction of the receiver. Imagine their 'relationship' only exists in the mind of the person who wrote these letters (maybe he or she is a ILE with Fi-polr), that would mean it's not very good developed Fi if they doesn't recognize that. Maybe it's just a playful joke or just ironic, they words alone don't tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Is this Fi?
    The first one reminds me a bit of SEE language. Overly using complements. So yes Fi.

    The second one is strange. Can't say anything about that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I'm trying to get a better idea of what Fi is so I was searching for some examples online (stolen from another forum, sorry) and thought these were good examples, wanted to see if you guys agreed or not or could possibly tell me what this sort of communication might be?



    Another :



    Personally, both examples make me want to vomit. Is this Fi?
    Neither example is Fi
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Jung/types.htm

    Fi is in those pages. But, if you expect someone to breast feed you the answer then go ahead and don't read.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Those examples make me want to vomit too. LOL.

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    Those are both AWFUL.

    I share Eunice's preference for more subtle communication of feelings. Subtlety > cheeseball floweriness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Song View Post
    Those are both AWFUL.

    I share Eunice's preference for more subtle communication of feelings. Subtlety > cheeseball floweriness.
    lol yeah..I'm trying to think what type would appreciate that and i'm at a loss..I think anyone with half a brain and maturity would find that really off-putting. I guess that was a bad example, lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I'm trying to get a better idea of what Fi is
    is not:
    Seeking high activity spheres
    Estimating the reactive state/possible reactions
    Horizontal progression
    Averaging the expectations/conduct of multiple things based on cause-effect
    Demeanor > verbalization
    Allocating objects for interaction
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    is not:
    Seeking high activity spheres
    Estimating the reactive state/possible reactions
    Horizontal progression
    Averaging the expectations/conduct of multiple things based on cause-effect
    Demeanor > verbalization
    Allocating objects for interaction
    Umm there are a few things wrong with this
    FiSe does seek high activity spheres
    FiNe estimates reaction by aggravating the person.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    FiNe estimates reaction by aggravating the person.
    Estimates reaction toward what end? What exactly is the FiNe seeking to define, here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    Estimates reaction toward what end? What exactly is the FiNe seeking to define, here?
    to extract libido from the object
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    You're saying you want to extract sexual desire from it?
    HAHAHA...no you silly libido has more meanings then sex.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    So the OP is Fe? No one wants to claim this example, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Are you trying to make excuses for yourself?
    No. You've read Jung's work and you can remember what it says.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Yeah I concur that the OP quotes don't sound at all Fi. It sounds way too overbearing and direct in its emotional content, whereas Fi (at least sane Fi) is much more subtle and implicit in its emotionality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Are you trying to make excuses for yourself?
    LOL!!!
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    Why are you blinking, Ryene ?

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    I would love to comment, but I have to go eat something, sorry.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    You people push away love. Normal people and regular people fall in love just like this. It's not really cheesy, it's just what love feels like. But socionics people, all you guys like to do is like seeing other people fall and distancing yourselves away from others, and debating about stuff on online message boards.

    You'd rather argue and get off on the conflict and drama, than fall in genuine love.

    I'm not talking about one person individually, I'm talking about most people on this forum.

    I'm sure, instead of taking an honest or rational insight into yourselves, you will just want to blame me and think (wrongly) that I'm being too oversensitive and 'IEI fag like.' I'm not really though. I'm just telling you that, most normal people, the average human 'feels love like this.' And they just attach with people normally and connect.

    But whatever reason, most of the people on here don't do this.

    That's all I'm saying.

    The mental world between 'this place' and most of the world is just very different. You guys are slowly self-destructing, where most people are growing and learning to love.

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    i just assumed the text was written by a teenage girl, heh.

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    Normally I wouldn't humiliate someone like this but it's too funny and hey, we don't know the person. Here's another one...for some reason this girl decided to go on a Valentines date with this guy but comes home and posts his emails online to make jokes about it lol this is so bad. I don't think this craziness can be typed!

    Hi beautiful,

    Hope you slept well & had sweet Valentine dreams, I know I sure did. Let me know if it's Ok with you if I tell you about them? It's pretty exciting.
    Did you name your new teddy yet? I hope you enjoyed everything last night, as much as possible anyway - and that I didn't scare you off in anyway?
    Everytime I look at you or look into your eyes I get soo excited like none other, you are such a turn on - just can't get enough. I think I like you
    more than you like me...haha. If you ever need to say anything at all to me for any reason just lay it out there, that the best thing for me possible. Hopefully
    everything I'm saying to you here makes sense to you, if not please let me know and I can explain more in depth. You are a very wonderful and georgeous lady!!

    Have a good day at work & I'll talk to you again soon

    Again Happy Valentine's Day & Thank you for being my beautiful Valentine, and Thanks soo much for the lovely gifts - I really appreciate them

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    That to me is an example of Fe. Can't say it makes me want to vomit, but tell that person that they don't need to try so hard and chill .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I don't think the text is an example of Fi or Fe. Sappiness is not type related. ;]

    +1 Guys saying stupid stuff in an attempt to get laid is also not type related.

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    Also, what is the age of the person who wrote it? I have an ESE friend with a teenage son who is SLI - I'm quite sure of their types - and she showed me a note he wrote his girlfriend that was every bit as sappy. And I really do think he's an SLI. And depsite the Fe PoLR, he'll say what his girlfriend wants to hear just like every other guy of every other type will.

    And yes I know his mom should not be showing his notes around. But she thought it was SO CUTE and she's never seen him SO EMOTIONAL. Poor kid is supervised like crazy by his mom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    Also, what is the age of the person who wrote it? I have an ESE friend with a teenage son who is SLI - I'm quite sure of their types - and she showed me a note he wrote his girlfriend that was every bit as sappy. And I really do think he's an SLI. And depsite the Fe PoLR, he'll say what his girlfriend wants to hear just like every other guy of every other type will.

    And yes I know his mom should not be showing his notes around. But she thought it was SO CUTE and she's never seen him SO EMOTIONAL. Poor kid is supervised like crazy by his mom.
    Hahahahahaha...

    This sounds like my mother. Except she doesn't show them around; she just tells me about the conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    +1 Guys saying stupid stuff in an attempt to get laid is also not type related.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    Also, what is the age of the person who wrote it? I have an ESE friend with a teenage son who is SLI - I'm quite sure of their types - and she showed me a note he wrote his girlfriend that was every bit as sappy. And I really do think he's an SLI. And depsite the Fe PoLR, he'll say what his girlfriend wants to hear just like every other guy of every other type will.

    And yes I know his mom should not be showing his notes around. But she thought it was SO CUTE and she's never seen him SO EMOTIONAL. Poor kid is supervised like crazy by his mom.
    Your view on guys is rather cynical lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Your view on guys is rather cynical lol.
    Well I am in love with a guy you know, but I am also a realist as to their intentions. My husband, and hopefully all guys, are capable of true and deep love. But when they're starting a relationship, I do think they're all kind of in the same place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I don't think the text is an example of Fi or Fe. Sappiness is not type related. ;]
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    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

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    Fe. She's just being playful.

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    lmao, it's a guy...that's what makes it so creepy and gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    lmao, it's a guy...that's what makes it so creepy and gross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    lmao, it's a guy...that's what makes it so creepy and gross.
    Problem is you didn't know that when you made that thread.

    So what's your excuse?
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    this person's like a creepy stalker on a Lifetime movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    this person's like a creepy stalker on a Lifetime movie
    yeah that's the vibe i got too haha and what makes it a million times worse is that I think this guy is in his thirties. Name your teddy? WTF come on guy. I stopped naming my 'teddy' when i was five.

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    Lol....Jessica, doesn't your stalker realised that you are married? :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I'm trying to get a better idea of what Fi is so I was searching for some examples online (stolen from another forum, sorry) and thought these were good examples, wanted to see if you guys agreed or not or could possibly tell me what this sort of communication might be?



    Another :



    Personally, both examples make me want to vomit. Is this Fi?
    Fe, with just a little Fi thrown in right around here:

    Just waiting for that next moment with you I have so much anticipation I can hardly wait. Sorry - this is just me speaking from the heart again,
    if you don't agree or just want me to shut-up just say so.
    But overall Fi is more subdued than that. Fe is more obvious about PDA.

    And, why is everyone shunning these? Bunch of Serious fags... ._.

    I think they're sweet.
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    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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