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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    do you have links to how non-conspiracy news services reports this? I'd be interested in seeing the contrast and focus given on the reasoning.
    I'll take a few minute to see if I can find one.

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    It is still a new story, give it a few days.
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    Did you actually read the affidavit on prisonplanet? Not only does it not give his membership to the Oath Keepers or possession of guns as an actual REASON for what happened, but the place it's mentioned is suspiciously out of alignment with the rest of the page, and printed in a different font. Questionable? I think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Did you actually read the affidavit on prisonplanet?
    It was just added within the last hour.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Not only does it not give his membership to the Oath Keepers or possession of guns as an actual REASON for what happened, but the place it's mentioned is suspiciously out of alignment with the rest of the page, and printed in a different font. Questionable? I think so.
    No body here knows the details except that nothing sticks out about him other than being a gun owner and a member of Oath Keepers.
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    ...except the other lawsuits against him mentioned in the affidavit which bring his skills as a reasonable, lawful parent into high doubt. I'm assuming that, as they were used for an arrest warrant, the results of those cases provide some legal basis for the government to take his kid away; if they don't, the guy will likely win a lawsuit to get the kid back, he will win a buttload of money, and the people responsible for the illegal affidavit will likely lose their jobs.

    So don't go raising alarms before you know the facts. Don't worry, New Hampshire is second only to Texas in protecting their citizens' rites; if he deserves to raise a child by any reasonable standard, he'll win a nice big lawsuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    ...except the other lawsuits against him mentioned in the affidavit which bring his skills as a reasonable, lawful parent into high doubt. I'm assuming that, as they were used for an arrest warrant, the results of those cases provide some legal basis for the government to take his kid away; if they don't, the guy will likely win a lawsuit to get the kid back, he will win a buttload of money, and the people responsible for the illegal affidavit will likely lose their jobs.

    So don't go raising alarms before you know the facts. Don't worry, New Hampshire is second only to Texas in protecting their citizens' rites; if he deserves to raise a child by any reasonable standard, he'll win a nice big lawsuit.
    Only if you bring it to public attention. You obviously have too much faith in the system.
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    I think alarmists are necessary watch dogs to some degree, but they also like to overstep their bounds in the name of self-righteousness and outright paranoia.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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