Please VI a NON-jackass
Friend of a friend--she's IEI and they've been friends for years. He's thoughtful, "well-liked by all," had a rep as a heartbreaker in college b/c he's charming but kept himself unattainable. He's just someone whom I really enjoy being around and who doesn't remind me of anyone I've been close to, so I'm curious what his type might be. Also because he's an enigma that several people in our social circle have tried to figure out, with limited success.
(photos removed--thanks for your help!)
Last edited by golden; 09-28-2010 at 01:06 AM.
Edward Norton's type
Especially last pic
I don't know what type that is though
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
ESTp
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
lolOriginally Posted by Crispy
Edward Norton's type
Especially last pic
I don't know what type that is though
Socionics.com has Norton listed as ISTp. Whether this man is more I or E is not easy to pinpoint. He's very contained, but he seems slightly more E. He's an achiever and a go-getter, but in a quiet way.
Sometimes when I see someone as slim as he is, I think toward introversion. But he has a health problem that has led to him being more thin than when he was younger and more athletic. Still, hard to say, E vs. I. Slightly more E, I guess.
Last edited by golden; 09-26-2010 at 05:11 AM.
Damn it all to fucking hell. I think this guy is the cat's meow, and there is a spark between us, but we don't live in the same city.
Will someone please come in here and tell me he's not my dual? Grrrr.
Last edited by golden; 09-26-2010 at 05:09 AM.
Thanks, Goldilocks. Read through that thread and noticed a big fat fail in terms of consensus on Norton's type.But it's an interesting thread nonetheless. Watching those clips of Norton, I don't know if I think these two are the same type.
I also noticed that a couple of people tried to type Norton IEI. My very first thought about the guy pictured was that he could be an IEI, because he knows a lot of us and likes us, and has harmonious IEI friendships that have stood the test of time. But after I considered it a little further, it seemed clear that he could not possibly be IEI. How could that be when a roomful of IEIs sit around and wonder what in the world makes this guy we're so fond of tick? lol. We know how WE tick. So whatever his type, it has to be one that fits with IEIs somehow or other.
I also noticed that in the Norton thread some people went for ENTp, and I'm going to say no on that one here.
Regarding this fella: think Big Man on Campus, world traveler, never married for no obvious reason, indirect career path, lots of contradictions (warm/aloof, uber-educated/doesn't present himself as an intellectual, charming/contained, commanding presence/very friendly and supportive, conservative-looking/tolerant of [even prefers] artsy types).
Cool!Goldenwings this guy looks so like my very first boyfriend from years and years ago...He was so very romantic. I will search for a photo of him to compare but think that my chances of finding one may be low.
ILE
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
My own first boyfriend was for sure an ILE, and I can see the surface resemblance.
Just for grins, I'll show you a photo of a woman he carried the torch for, for a long time:
(photo removed)
One other gossipy tidbit: One woman in our circle who types as INTj tried to "land" him for quite a while, and it went around and around in circles, with him showing some interest here and there but then repeatedly brushing her off. He tends to do that anyway, but it was an especially bad case, lol.
Last edited by golden; 09-28-2010 at 01:07 AM.
Aw, Goldilocks! Wow. That's a really sad story.
How sweet that he wanted you to hear that song, and that his mom and sister thought to pass it along to you.
oh puhhleez. this is one of the few times SLI could actually be an option.Si-ESE is very likely,too (unnatainable,"well-liked by all heartbreaker rings a bell and he reminds me of my ESE brother).
Last edited by Kalinoche buenanoche; 09-26-2010 at 01:37 PM.
Gulenko!
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
E/I does not differentiate between quiet go getter and loud one...Chris Reeve, who I type as an active yet out of the limelight goal getter is SLE and he was never "loud"...I also don't find consistency between being "loud" and being Se ego, that was a wrong assumption or pattern established in the past that's become another terrible thing people have attached to Se ego blocks.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
What was she like? I like her style.Just for grins, I'll show you a photo of a woman he carried the torch for, for a long time:
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
She seems to be either ESE or SEE, most likely ESE
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Yes, I agree. I was saying that even though he's quiet, he's a go-getter, very active in several areas of life, meaning that for this and other reasons, he seems more E to me.
Last edited by golden; 09-26-2010 at 05:16 PM.
Me too--she seems really cool. She's a self-described free spirit and sort of bohemian. Apparently she was a bit of a misfit and a dreamer when they were growing up and just did her own thing. She was a dancer (no, not THAT kind of dancer). Today she does other things professionally, one related to arts, the other legal-ish.
And also afaik, this relationship was somewhat along the lines of "the one that got away."
lol--yeah, I see it.Gulenko!
Is Gulenko s'posed to be INTJ? I'm not sure that this guy is very.
Also, consider that the picture of Gulenko (if he is INTj) is taken very closely. I don't type by one picture alone because from close proximity, the person may look like a normal weight and I may type them an S but from a distance they may look like a total N type.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Yeah, I looked at some other pix of Gulenko and didn't see the resemblance in those.
What do you mean by weight? How does that factor into your typing?
Most N type are on the smaller frame side. Skinny, like you and I and most of my N friends.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
SF's are the fat ones, right?
No, SF's have bigger bodies, whether that's a result of bigger bones or better muscle development makes them bigger then N type. There are skinny S type models and skinny N type models too, the difference is that N types don't have to struggle with their weight, because they can't put it on like S types can if they tried to gain weight.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
that woman looks alpha SF to me. hmm. the guy... Goldenwings I thought you're really happy with your current boyfriend?
this guy looks great though. Really. gosh, yeah. I could see SLE or ILE.
imho, ESEs are not heartbreakers nor are they unattainable. But that could be just the ones I know.
and I agree that SLEs can be quiet.
IEI-Fe 4w3
fwiw i think that girl looks kind of hot.
lol
She's very attractive! And from all I've gathered, has an awesome attitude and personality. She reminds me a friend of mine, also a dancer. The kind of woman I'd want if I were a guy or ... whatever, lol.
Well, my current bf is great. He lives abroad now, and I'm going to spend two months with him starting the end of October. It's a very complicated relationship on a practical level. If we want to stay together permanently, the stakes will be extremely high. I'm worried about all that pressure, and I'm wary of committing to anyone, anywhere after a crappy 10-year marriage. So let's just say I'm not considering things open-and-shut.
But OTOH, I don't want to be so wary that I mess up a good relationship. I'm just playing it by ear at this point.
And as for the guy in the photos here, he is for sure a really exceptional person, and I consider him out of my league. I doubt he'd ever be truly interested in me, although we have flirted ... or something. Whatever that was. He's a friend, via a friend, and it's probably better to just leave it at that.
that makes a hella sense.
well, you just. never. know.And as for the guy in the photos here, he is for sure a really exceptional person, and I consider him out of my league. I doubt he'd ever be truly interested in me, although we have flirted ... or something. Whatever that was. He's a friend, via a friend, and it's probably better to just leave it at that.
IEI-Fe 4w3
The number of women who have tried to make something happen with this man is pretty huge at this point, lol. I'm a combination of too stubborn and too self-consciouswell, you just. never. know.to add myself to that crazy queue.
I'm not telling you to "try to make something happen" with him (that usually doesn't work anyway). I'm just saying... he may, in the end, try to make something happen with you. Just be yourself and then whatever.The number of women who have tried to make something happen with this man is pretty huge at this point, lol. I'm a combination of too stubborn and too self-conscious
IEI-Fe 4w3
Yeah, I'm not the "make something happen type." So no worries there. I know enough about this guy to be aware that he has a history of women chasing him, and I don't think he likes that, actually.I'm not telling you to "try to make something happen" with him (that usually doesn't work anyway). I'm just saying... he may, in the end, try to make something happen with you. Just be yourself and then whatever.
Regarding his type--could the ILE versus SLE question have something to do with
I don't have so much Socionics experience, but I would say that my ILE first boyfriend--someone I knew all too well for five or six years ... he was always brewing up some wacky idea. To this day he does about 20 strange projects at once, lol, and is always thinking of more. Does that qualify as
I don't know this guy as well. I think
Pic man has one or two central projects and concerns that he's been pursuing for years and years, plugging away at those same things and strategizing and trying things daily and doggedly to turn them into something successful. Don't know what that means, type-wise.
He broke up with his last regular gf on the basis that she was never there for him and he couldn't count on her. What does that mean? We (social circle) were surprised that he said this, because he comes across as extremely independent.
I don't think a lot of men do. But I could be wrong.
yeah absolutely the wacky ideas could be Ne.Regarding his type--could the ILE versus SLE question have something to do with
I don't have so much Socionics experience, but I would say that my ILE first boyfriend--someone I knew all too well for five or six years ... he was always brewing up some wacky idea. To this day he does about 20 strange projects at once, lol, and is always thinking of more. Does that qualify as
very interesting. Probably what he meant was that she wasn't there for him in the way he wanted/needed her to be. Regardless of his level of independence, he needs something from his significant-other relationship that he wasn't getting from her.I don't know this guy as well. I think
Pic man has one or two central projects and concerns that he's been pursuing for years and years, plugging away at those same things and strategizing and trying things daily and doggedly to turn them into something successful. Don't know what that means, type-wise.
He broke up with his last regular gf on the basis that she was never there for him and he couldn't count on her. What does that mean? We (social circle) were surprised that he said this, because he comes across as extremely independent.
IEI-Fe 4w3
Dunno. I'm not sure I see him havingin the ego block? The very first impression I got of him could have been congruent with
One afternoon I went out for coffee with him and my best friend (the IEI), and the dynamic between me and him was so weird that when we left she said, "What the fuck was that?" Very tense, extremely provoking behavior on his part. We were outside alone at one point and he was very confrontational about something I was doing, which was technically none of his business, and he barely knew me at that point! I was on the verge of telling him that if he didn't like what I was doing, then I'd like to see him just try to make me stop, and thankfully, our mutual friend came outside at that point, lol.
But since then he's been pretty okay with me.
Last edited by golden; 09-26-2010 at 09:35 PM.
Yeah, good point, redbaron. I guess this is what failed relations boil down to?
I don't think SLIs are necessarily conflict avoidant. One I know has a history of telling off people.Dunno. I'm not sure I see him having
One afternoon I went out for coffee with him and my best friend (the IEI), and the dynamic between me and him was so weird that when we left she said, "What the fuck was that?" Very tense, extremely provoking behavior on his part. We were outside alone at one point and he was very confrontational about something I was doing, which was technically none of his business, and he barely knew me at that point! I was on the verge of telling him that if he didn't like what I was doing, then I'd like to see him just try to make me stop, and thankfully, our mutual friend came outside at that point, lol.
But since then he's been pretty okay with me.
It was just an impression though, you know him more than I do.
I don't know either, lol. If I run through a bunch of questions or comments about the functions, it's because I'm using a thread like this as an opportunity to understand Socionics better. If I just read a description of SLI it seems like it could fit him okay, but if I break it down by functions it looks less possible. But not impossible.
Well, I don't consider myself a VI expert, but the reason why I thought he seems Si-base is first off because he seems natural and 'all there' which I associate with sensing. Second, he seems comfortable, mellow, and disengaged, pointing more toward Si and away from Se. By disengaged, I mean he looks like he's satisfied where he is, and not like he's going to jump out at you or like he holds his surroundings confidently in his grasp kind of vibe which is what I associate with Se. He just has this contented vibe. He seems real, down-to-earth, nice, and 'soft.' All things which I generally associate with Si.
But, as I said, I'm no VI expert, nor would I put a lot of weight into it if I were.
edit: actually, looking back, I wouldn't be surprised at Se-creative either.
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