Portraits by E. Filatova

**glam** · 08-02-2010, 04:29 AM

these are nothing new but i'm posting them because i don't think they've been posted here before and they should probably be here, for anyone who hasn't seen them who may be interested, and for discussion's sake if anyone has any comments about them.

these particular portraits are from Filatova's book "Personality in the Mirror of Socionics" (2001)

On Filatova's portraits - from Wikisocion:

It should be noted that Ekaterina Filatova did not herself use visual identification ("V.I.") to diagnose the types of the people in her books. She simply began to notice similarities between people of the same type and tried to capture them through photos.

Who are the people in the pictures? from Socioniko.net:

Visitors of our site often ask us whether the people whose pictures are placed together with type descriptions have been “typed” correctly. OK, we answer.

These portraits have been photographed by Yekaterina S. Filatova, a socionist from St. Petersburg, since 1991. She gave us her permission to place some of her pictures at our site. She did not use any “visual identification” methods – she is rather much critical towards such methods, and never wants to “type” pictures which some people send to her. On the contrary, she first determined the type of the person (by interviewing, in course of long contacts, etc.) and only then, when this person expressed his/her agreement with the type description and his/her permission for being photographed, she made his/her pictures in several standard perspectives (which allowed comparing pictures of different people with each other). In addition, she often received feedback from these people and kept contacts with them, since many of them were her former students, colleague professors or even practicing socionists. If anybody later expressed his doubts about the correctness of his/her type identification, then his/her pictures were removed from the collection to a separate folder marked “dubious” for future verification. The total number of portraits made by her exceeds several thousands, and the most reliable of them have been published in her books.

Later she compared her pictures, and discovered so-called “quasi-twin” series within each of the 16 types. However, they were similar not as much by facial traits (form of nose, lips etc.) as by their characteristic mimicry (facial expressions). For this reason, we strongly disagree with the approach of Sergei Ganin, the owner of ₪₪₪ Socionics - The New Psychology ₪₪₪, who determines types of celebrities using the method 'he/she facially reminds me a person whose type is XYZ". As a part of psychology, socionics should use scientific approach of studying people characters, instead of physiognomics and other pseudo-sciences.

**glam** · 08-02-2010, 04:29 AM

**The Exception** · 08-02-2010, 04:42 AM

LOL at some of the ILI photos:

They don't call ILI the critic for nothing:

A female niffy!

**Crispy** · 08-02-2010, 04:53 AM

These have always proved useful, along with the excellent descriptions at socioniko.

My Russian Twin

This guy looks fuggin hilarious next to the other SLE's.

**The Exception** · 08-02-2010, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by Crispy

These have always proved useful, along with the excellent descriptions at socioniko.

My Russian Twin

Yeah the similarity with the expressions of those LIIs and my own facial expressions is uncanny.

Creepy-male · 08-02-2010, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by glamourama

SEI

Lol, stoner SEIs ftw.

EDIT

Also, lol, if there was ever a Ne moment caught on camera, this is it. I think I'm in love

**silverchris9** · 08-02-2010, 06:56 AM

God, there are a lot of unattractive Russians.

**Rubicon** · 08-02-2010, 07:56 AM

lol yeah

**FDG** · 08-02-2010, 08:00 AM

Among those, I am probably most similar to this LSE woman (as far as facial expression / structure goes):

**Simon Ssmall** · 08-02-2010, 08:19 AM

They dont look like typical russian people, they are more like crazy 70's university type of people who you never see on the streets, I mean God, just look at the glasses of those people

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**Rubicon** · 08-02-2010, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by glamourama

here's me..

**Rubicon** · 08-02-2010, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ssmall

They dont look like typical russian people, they are more like crazy 70's university type of people who you never see on the streets, I mean God, just look at the glasses of those people

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the type who turn to socionics :-p

**xerx** · 08-02-2010, 09:29 AM

Wow, it's my brother:

**Timeless** · 08-02-2010, 08:18 PM

The SLIs look like the happiest people in the world.

**April** · 08-02-2010, 08:50 PM

The SLEs are going to eat me as soon as a fall asleep tonight. I just know it.

**Absurd** · 08-02-2010, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by April

The SLEs are going to eat me as soon as a fall asleep tonight. I just know it.

There can be only one.

**Wittmont** · 08-02-2010, 11:02 PM

I use these pics a lot as reference (a couple of years now), over time I have found them extremely accurate to the point i can now VI people in rl surprisingly accurately very quickly.

**redbaron** · 08-02-2010, 11:31 PM

Wow, this guy reminds me of my SEI dad when he was much younger:

**redbaron** · 08-02-2010, 11:40 PM

Haha, as much as I hate to say it, this guy reminds me of me:

**The Exception** · 08-02-2010, 11:41 PM

This SEE guy looks ready to con you out of money or something. Manipulator to the nth degree.

**redbaron** · 08-02-2010, 11:57 PM

I think he looks a bit like the young Elvis Presley.

**Cyrano** · 08-03-2010, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by April

The SLEs are going to eat me as soon as a fall asleep tonight. I just know it.

They do look undead don't they. Those are the ugliest men I've ever seen. I wonder what the women look like.

**Marie84** · 08-03-2010, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Timeless

The SLIs look like the happiest people in the world.

They smile ~*~with their eyes~*~

**Beautiful sky** · 08-03-2010, 06:35 AM

Tyra is SEI

**Timeless** · 08-03-2010, 08:00 AM

Those ESIs look like they're ready to slit somebody's throat!

"My name is Boris, and I vant to keel you."

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On the other hand, I had a SEI math tutor who I got along with really well and she looked 95% exactly like her:

She was really sweet and kind.

**Nowisthetime** · 08-03-2010, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by silverchris9

God, there are a lot of unattractive Russians.

Russians are generally very attractive, at least the women. I know, cuz we have a lot of them in my country.

But I don't think it's about nationality. They are simply ordinary pictures, taken without styling. And in the 70ties.

But I like them.

I agree with warrior-librarian on the ILI guy. He deserves to be called a critic.

**Nowisthetime** · 08-03-2010, 04:51 PM

I like this SEI man. He radiates good feelings and funny jokes.

**Socionics Is A Cult** · 08-03-2010, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Timeless

She looks like Martha Kearney, a British TV person.

Originally Posted by Nowisthetime

He looks like the actor Herbert Lom, who played Inspector Clouseau's much aggrieved boss in the Pink Panther films. There's also something a little Patrick McGoohan about him as well.

**Socionics Is A Cult** · 08-03-2010, 05:20 PM

SEI

Frodo

ILE

umm...Daniel Dennett

some relative of Sergei's possibly
LII

Tom Baker and Jonathan Miller maybe?

ESE

Melvyn Bragg

Alex Kapranos

LSI

Tom Petty

EIE

a Prince of Denmark

Tessa Jowell

Theresa May (NOT Teresa May)

Princess Diana

Moira Stuart

IEI

Kate Bush

Sir Mark Elder

ESI

Nora Batty

LIE

Karl Popper...Voltaire?

EII

Vincent

**redbaron** · 08-03-2010, 06:42 PM

ahhaha Sub, those are great!

**Trevor** · 08-03-2010, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Nowisthetime

And in the 70ties.

The pics were taken somewhere around A.D. 1992, afaik.

**redbaron** · 08-04-2010, 02:12 PM

I love that you posted these, Glam. I keep referring to them! thanks.

**glam** · 08-05-2010, 02:15 AM

you're welcome

i actually think they're pretty reliable, as some other people have commented. (even though they are sort of dated)

**redbaron** · 08-05-2010, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by glamourama

you're welcome

i actually think they're pretty reliable, as some other people have commented.

I agree.

Creepy-Pied Piper · 08-07-2010, 04:55 AM

Removed at User Request

**jughead** · 08-07-2010, 06:33 AM

What would you say are the definining charicteristics of the SEE's and SLEs expression? The SLE's kinda look like they are staring and the SEE's may be too but are friendlier.