how chaotic is ILE? do they provoke it or does it find them? is ILE the whirling dervish of the socion? tell about experiences with chaos and ILE if you have any....
ILE and chaos
how chaotic is ILE? do they provoke it or does it find them? is ILE the whirling dervish of the socion? tell about experiences with chaos and ILE if you have any....
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
depends on the kind of chaos.
ideological chaos yes. Karl Marx is the prime example. you can't fight an idea.
chaos within neatly arranged systems like oppressive hierarchies, yes.
directly causing chaos and destruction, not so much. that's more up beta's alley.
Originally Posted by jxrtes
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Maritsa that is the most offensive thing I have ever read on this forum.
Offensive? Why? Look at albert einstein, how he used to walk around with ragish clothing and when he got married, he hoped that his wife would clean up the home; when she didn't, he made a routine for her and she, being the same type as he, didn't do it so stuff didn't get done. There's nothing offensive about not having the energy to doreal, realistic, physical, things.
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Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
edit: l love my duals
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
The Great Victor Gulenko hath spoken.
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Gulenko is one of the few socionics practitioners of whom this can be said without much resulting error. If he ascribes traits to your type you aren't comfortable with, its time to throw in the towel and rethink your values. You can't change your type. You can only change your appreciation of what the type comprises, even if that means taking a step back and admitting faults in yourself.
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No, they have and get so many
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
And this statement rests on the authority of... whom? The Great Pinocchio? You can't seriously expect anyone to be impressed by that.It was just the way you said it, "The Great" - like anything he says is sacred. Gulenko said a lot of shit, too, his position doesn't mean we should swallow everything he spills out.
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Fixed.
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Except you don't list reasons and evidence, and there aren't any of either. All that the claim has to back it up are feverish babblings of a village fool.
yes...i remember reading that some time ago. but someone recently told me that i was very chaotic, that they can't deal with the constant multi tasking and ideas coming forward. their issue was working on a whole bunch of things at once and at the same time thinking of the next new cool things. then i remembered that gulenko statement and wondered if it was true.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
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