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    It would help me if she removed the parenthesis from her signature so that I don't get confused...lol.

    But today I read a post in an old interaction with her and RYU and I saw myself in that interaction.

    The need to understand by asking question like "What do you mean?" and "Can you give an example?"

    This is when we are interacting with ESTj's who don't know exactly what to tell us or who are not doing what they are supposed to do. Dual communication at first isn't easy it's like that part of a wheel or puzzle piece and you need to find the right positioning....IM.

    We both use odd "like" examples, which I find funny and interesting.

    Anyway, after getting over my massive thing today (no need for discussion on this) I realized that dual communication is like this example where all the parts have to come together in order for understanding to work and since Minde has been communicating with RYU and the other LSE on the site, she is already in this "communication" frame of mind, while Airborne knows exactly what to say and do and Rasputin was like RYU and MINDE when they just started communicating...

    I figured out the communication patterns within dual interactions and there are a few, but right now I am very tired so give me a few days and I will talk about it.

    Puzzle piece has to fit the right way for communication to work.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    You have strange criteria for evidence and have logical mood swings that could use a little reflection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    You have strange criteria for evidence and have logical mood swings that could use a little reflection.
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    She also has that. Sort of inhibits one's reflectiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    You have strange criteria for evidence and have logical mood swings that could use a little reflection.
    Ha ha...no I don't. There's a lot of it but I really did have to go back to the year 2007 and 2008 to get it, which I did not look at before.

    You can't use any of these things to evaluate whether someon is INFj or not and i have taken the time to list a lot of them but just a few here:

    1. Clumsy is not INFj (something else is, which I was hopeing she would provide but I actually got from an email from one of her friends) ..Thanks. PS. I did not ask for it, this person gave it to me by accident and on their own will.
    2. Religious/Moral is not INFj
    3. Yelling and cursing is not INFj
    4. No yelling and not cursing is not INFj
    5. Being family centered is not INFj
    6. Being demanding is not INFj.


    I guess I am a test of her character on many levels. LOL
    She's become a test of my internet character.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Ha ha...no I don't. There's a lot of it but I really did have to go back to the year 2007 and 2008 to get it, which I did not look at before.

    You can't use any of these things to evaluate whether someon is INFj or not and i have taken the time to list a lot of them but just a few here:

    1. Clumsy is not INFj (something else is, which I was hopeing she would provide but I actually got from an email from one of her friends) ..Thanks. PS. I did not ask for it, this person gave it to me by accident and on their own will.
    2. Religious/Moral is not INFj
    3. Yelling and cursing is not INFj
    4. No yelling and not cursing is not INFj
    5. Being family centered is not INFj
    6. Being demanding is not INFj.


    I guess I am a test of her character on many levels. LOL
    She's become a test of my internet character.
    You could better sum this up by saying surface behaviors and personality traits are not type related. Once you get past that, what is FiNe, and are you trying to find yourself in the type, therefore bending it or yourself to match each other? The problem isn't whether you're FiNe or not, or if Minde is or isn't, what matters more is your grasp on Socionics and being able to understand what constitutes as strong evidence in this type of discourse as well as what makes a strong argument. Searching through her posts and doing whatever else you're doing to match that information to whatever you think is FiNe (which is heavily MBTI influenced) is a flawed process. First off, no one will ever know whether you or her are FiNe unless one spends enough time with whomever in person enough to have first hand evidence. The internet is a completely different medium, and no one is acting completely themselves in their posts. For example, my best friend read one of my posts and said that I posted in my "essay voice" instead of mirroring how I talk offline. Just the fact that I have an "essay voice" might make people think differently about me than how they think NeFi should be sounding. Next, you have to have a good understanding of the IEs and functions to make a logical connection from evidence to theory, and I'm sorry, but you haven't displayed a strong grasp on either in your posts. Wikisocion quotes don't flatter your arguments. This leaves out all other sorts of details that comes to arguments, like presentation and overall communication, and it is why there is so much conflict. But at the same time, I don't think you mind it, from some posts you've made, you don't really want things to change, and therefore, I doubt anyone will ever take your arguments seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    You could better sum this up by saying surface behaviors and personality traits are not type related. Once you get past that, what is FiNe, and are you trying to find yourself in the type, therefore bending it or yourself to match each other? The problem isn't whether you're FiNe or not, or if Minde is or isn't, what matters more is your grasp on Socionics and being able to understand what constitutes as strong evidence in this type of discourse as well as what makes a strong argument. Searching through her posts and doing whatever else you're doing to match that information to whatever you think is FiNe (which is heavily MBTI influenced) is a flawed process. First off, no one will ever know whether you or her are FiNe unless one spends enough time with whomever in person enough to have first hand evidence. The internet is a completely different medium, and no one is acting completely themselves in their posts. For example, my best friend read one of my posts and said that I posted in my "essay voice" instead of mirroring how I talk offline. Just the fact that I have an "essay voice" might make people think differently about me than how they think NeFi should be sounding. Next, you have to have a good understanding of the IEs and functions to make a logical connection from evidence to theory, and I'm sorry, but you haven't displayed a strong grasp on either in your posts. Wikisocion quotes don't flatter your arguments. This leaves out all other sorts of details that comes to arguments, like presentation and overall communication, and it is why there is so much conflict. But at the same time, I don't think you mind it, from some posts you've made, you don't really want things to change, and therefore, I doubt anyone will ever take your arguments seriously.
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    The evidence was pretty much in Se PoLR and Ne.
    What is a person doing when they are interacting with others was another evidence for me.

    You can find the evidence if you know what to look for in a few interactions really.
    I just like to keep a lot of what I know to myself, I guess.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Maritsa has a girl crush.

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    She kept saying "I'm clumsy" and I did not get the sense of the Se PoLR until I spoke to her friend who told me what I needed to know, pretty much.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    You could better sum this up by saying surface behaviors and personality traits are not type related. Once you get past that, what is FiNe, and are you trying to find yourself in the type, therefore bending it or yourself to match each other? The problem isn't whether you're FiNe or not, or if Minde is or isn't, what matters more is your grasp on Socionics and being able to understand what constitutes as strong evidence in this type of discourse as well as what makes a strong argument. Searching through her posts and doing whatever else you're doing to match that information to whatever you think is FiNe (which is heavily MBTI influenced) is a flawed process. First off, no one will ever know whether you or her are FiNe unless one spends enough time with whomever in person enough to have first hand evidence. The internet is a completely different medium, and no one is acting completely themselves in their posts. For example, my best friend read one of my posts and said that I posted in my "essay voice" instead of mirroring how I talk offline. Just the fact that I have an "essay voice" might make people think differently about me than how they think NeFi should be sounding. Next, you have to have a good understanding of the IEs and functions to make a logical connection from evidence to theory, and I'm sorry, but you haven't displayed a strong grasp on either in your posts. Wikisocion quotes don't flatter your arguments. This leaves out all other sorts of details that comes to arguments, like presentation and overall communication, and it is why there is so much conflict. But at the same time, I don't think you mind it, from some posts you've made, you don't really want things to change, and therefore, I doubt anyone will ever take your arguments seriously.
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    Maritsa is retarded.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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