insight about se vs si

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

I've noticed Se-types on stickam have a distinct 'unnatural uneasiness' with their physical environment, like we're always paranoid about it and want to dominate it and/or run away from it, whereas with Si-types it's like they blend in with the woodwork and they just sort of organically mesh well with the energy of physical reality as a unified whole.

As such, Se-valuers look more personally powerful and celebrity-like, although not as internally comfortable. Se types also have a pierce to them, even if they are peace-loving people.

But this isn't so cut and dry. For example alpha esfjs look lively and 'out there' but that's because they still have strong Se despite not valuing it, which covers up the polr in INTj. Sooo a better way to say it is it depends on where Se is in your psychological blocks or whatever, but I'm not sure how to categorize it all yet. Though it's just very noticeable to me.

This can be objectively observed IMO so that's why it was interesting to me.

Perhaps:

isfp: blend in
esfj: stand out
intj: blend in
entp: blend in

estp: stand out
enfj: stand out
infp: stand out
istj: blend in

esfp: stand out
intp: blend in
entj: stand out
isfj: stand out

enfp: stand out
istp: blend in
infj: blend in
estj: blend in (perhaps enfp and estj are switched. Actually that might make more sense...)

[Beautiful sky]

Here is my contribution dear...

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-polr-eii.html

[thePirate]

were u thinking about cox when u wrote this

I think u were

[Beautiful sky]

were u thinking about cox when u wrote this

I think u were

What do you mean? I don't understand.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

lol I wasn't. =p At all.

[ArchonAlarion]

isfp: dick in
esfj: dick out
intj: dick in
entp: dick in

estp: dick out
enfj: dick out
infp: dick out
istj: dick in

esfp: dick out
intp: dick in
entj: dick out
isfj: dick out

enfp: dick out
istp: dick in
infj: dick in
estj: dick in

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Yeah maritsa it's interesting. I've had problems with assertiveness that I think all white middle-class geeks have, but I don't think I ever had a problem with getting somebody to do something if I really wanted them to. I guess I sort of always intuitively understood that if somebody wants to do what I want I have to frame it in a way that will benefit them.

Also power and force are bad buzzwords for Se because it just stereotypically makes Se as the 'raping' function or something. Although technically speaking, in all seriousness I have never been in society's 'good light' despite being empathetic and humanitarian good-faggy like, so I think functions are a big culprit at work here. Most people have always viewed me as the enemy or ambivalent. So I think maybe in all seriousness, people really did feel threatened or victimized by me in some way, because I just always did my own thing and wouldn't listen to authority. I didn't outright rebel against them, was much too soft for that, but I still refused anybody having any power over me. So it was like in this ironicway my softness was this very strong thing.

Eventually though I had to give in and listen just because they would try to psychologically torture me for not caving in someway. But they knew I wouldn't like torture or be evil to them in that way, I'd just always be cutely rebellious but it still drove them insane. lololol.

[Lotus]

b&d was this revelation related to seeing se vs si valuers on stickam yesterday? no wonder you looked so mischevious you little creeper

[Aiss]

Sooo a better way to say it is it depends on where Se is in your psychological blocks or whatever, but I'm not sure how to categorize it all yet. Though it's just very noticeable to me.

If you were going by just that, INFp should be the same as INTp. If it contradicts observation, then there's more than Se/Si involved?

[thePirate]

there are dix involved

[Blaze]

Perhaps:

isfp: blend in
esfj: stand out
intj: blend in
entp: blend in

estp: stand out
enfj: stand out
infp: stand out
istj: blend in

esfp: stand out
intp: blend in
entj: stand out
isfj: stand out

enfp: stand out
istp: blend in
infj: blend in
estj: blend in (perhaps enfp and estj are switched. Actually that might make more sense...)

isn't this in the eye of the beholder? are you sure this isn't just the way you would look at things not how everyone looks at things? people who stand out for me are different than the ones who stand out for you. if you mean that some people are loud and talk a lot and are attention whores, that's different.