FYI: When People Are Confused About Types

[thePirate]

and their trying to find out what they are, similar ones in particular, saying one type values an element over the other isnt fucking helpful to people who can read.

meaning if your trying to figure out ENFj or ENFp saying they ENFj's value over doesnt do anything! its clear through the texts that its what they value, alot of confusion comes from misinterpretation, its ALOT more helpful when people post up situations as real life examples to how each type would act to compare and contrast, how the elements would manifest, etc.

well, it is for me anyway.
hopefully this'll be taken into consideration.

[Trevor]

People generally want to be pigeonholed.

[thePirate]

and accepting socionics doesnt put you in a box?

it doesnt have to pidgeonhole if you use it how its supposed to

[krieger]

Most of the time it's better to talk about behavior instead. This reduces the bullshit factor of the discussion.

[Slacker]

I think sometimes it helps more to look at weak functions. The level to which I prefer Si to Ti is much more clear than the level to which I prefer Fi over Fe. I use both Fi and Fe so that's more muddled.

[redbaron]

I think sometimes it helps more to look at weak functions. The level to which I prefer Si to Ti is much more clear than the level to which I prefer Fi over Fe. I use both Fi and Fe so that's more muddled.

Yes, I agree.

[Jarno]

and their trying to find out what they are, similar ones in particular, saying one type values an element over the other isnt fucking helpful to people who can read.

meaning if your trying to figure out ENFj or ENFp saying they ENFj's value over doesnt do anything! its clear through the texts that its what they value, alot of confusion comes from misinterpretation, its ALOT more helpful when people post up situations as real life examples to how each type would act to compare and contrast, how the elements would manifest, etc.

exactly.

[Jarno]

Most of the time it's better to talk about behavior instead. This reduces the bullshit factor of the discussion.

Yep!

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Wynch]

Dang, I hate when mistyping causes nausea. Like when some users (who know who they are) accuse people of being a certain type and call them liars when they behave like themselves (contrary to a certain type) then patronize them for their fear of revealing their true, untrue, selves it also makes me want to vomit.

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[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Wynch]

I'm going to take this to PM since I don't want to clog up the thread too badly with our never-ending story. Give me a second to respond to you.

[Azeroffs]

and their trying to find out what they are, similar ones in particular, saying one type values an element over the other isnt fucking helpful to people who can read.

meaning if your trying to figure out ENFj or ENFp saying they ENFj's value over doesnt do anything! its clear through the texts that its what they value, alot of confusion comes from misinterpretation, its ALOT more helpful when people post up situations as real life examples to how each type would act to compare and contrast, how the elements would manifest, etc.

[silverchris9]

yeah, I know... but function analysis tends to cover more examples than behavioral stuff. It's like form versus instance...

Anyway, I sometimes prefer function stuff to behavioral examples, because I'm afraid that someone will say just because they do or do not fit a certain behavior, they're a certain type, and I don't agree with that. I think that type has much more to do with how than what (and is as such, much less clear cut than it appears), and I think behavioral examples tend to focus the metaphorical eye on "what" rather than how.

Plus, I don't like real life. So I don't like real life examples. (that sounded much more angsty than it was intended.)