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    Default Beta erotic attitudes

    Are these accurate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
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    In second [kvadre] the nature of sexual [lask] entirely of another. Here they do not love easy strokings, but they approach intensive action on the skin, which is manifested in the strong embraces, when partners squeeze, squeeze each other. Sensory types “Macedonian” (Zhukov) and “Gor'kiy” are very jealous: one thought about the treason can poison life by it. Shakespearean Othello (bitter”) kills Desdemona. It is characteristic that at first he it suffocated - Shakespeare (“Hamlet”) not randomly showed this. We can give examples from the life: husband (“Gor'kiy”) and wife (“Hamlet”) live in the hostel. Since wife - sociable ex-grassRT, husband is very frequently jealous it to the neighbors. In this case the scene each time is developed almost according to Shakespeare: “You with whom was?” - asks “Gor'kiy” and is taken 'Hamlet” by hands for the neck. It yells, and it frightenedly releases it.

    As far as “Macedonian” (Zhukov) is concerned, it can at the moments of proximity give clear confident commands “to Esenin” - not without reason the second pseudonym of this type - “marshal”. Specular relations “Macedonian” - “Gor'kiy” are sufficiently complex: in order to tune under the partner, “Macedonian” it is necessary to constantly control itself, to be held in control. This greatly tires it, but if it will not make this, then it [nevrotiziruet] 'Gor'kiy” of its [sensorikoy], which is absent in “Hamlet”. From “Hamlet” “Gor'kiy” waits stormy dramatic feelings and support of its sensory initiatives. In this case the partners can assume the most improbable poses.

    It is interesting that when are encountered the types from different [kvadr], then by them are unusual the special features of the behavior of partner. Thus, woman “Dreiser” was very astonished, when man - “Esenin” strongly compressed it in his embraces, to it was necessary “to retrain” him.

    “[Viktimnaya]” woman or the woman- victim
    (Esenin, Hamlet)


    Ideal of this woman - physically strong man, who resembles supermen from the American fighters. It desires to undergo its force, to resist its strong pressure, to feel itself with victim. In the amorous games the preference is given to the different forms of the opposition, which kindle the passion of partner. In women of this type are now and then immanently inherent [mazokhistskie] features. True, far from all of them return to itself in this the report

    Woman - “aggressor”
    (Zhukov, Gor'kiy).


    Always attempts to compete with the man, including in the erotic relations. It is inclined to the irony, the mockeries above the opposite sex. It loves to feel itself more competent than man in any matter. During the amorous game it expects from the man of flattery, showy weakness, emotional instability.

    “[Viktimnyy]” man
    (Esenin, Hamlet)


    It idealizes imperious woman. It is adjusted slightly under its tastes, it respects in it strong-willed qualities. In the behavior first emphasizes its dependence and obedience, then it escapes from under the control. In the relations with the woman it subconsiously expects orders, dirty tricks, reproaches. Without obtaining similar reactions, their manifestation involuntarily provokes.

    Man - “aggressor”
    (Zhukov, Gor'kiy).


    This [sotsiotip] has a tendency toward the forced mastery by woman. In the amorous game it loves to demonstrate fight. Roughness can allow itself, sometimes causes to women pain - both physical and moral. It expects from the woman of subordination to force.

    “Aggressive” woman

    Object for its imperious and impulse erotic actions searches for. The man, who behaves with it obediently, most of all arranges it, but it is capricious. Then it has an occasion for the aggression. [Viktimnyy] man idolizes this woman it is and at the same time scared it. His behavior can be compared with the behavior of the page, who wholly devotes himself to service “excellent lady”. Constant game - better medicine for the satiety. In the relations with the infantile man by it will not be sufficient play submissiveness from his side. Its unwillingness to be adapted to the aggressive moves cannot but place this union on the face of break. Relations with “the aggressor” of masculine sex to it, from one side, flatter and whip its ardor, but, from the other side, and they repulse, since they do not lead to the desired victory. Therefore they can enjoy only variable success. However, thoughtful man will make nervous by his its relation to it as to the small child, which she receives as humiliation.

    “[Viktimnaya]” woman (victim)


    Skillfully it plays on its weakness, lack of defense or lack of organization, provoking thus aggressive man to the impulse and decisive actions. In the amorous games the greatest value for it have strong embraces and the force of the man body, being inferior to which it demonstrates its submissiveness to the will of man. Thoughtful type men seem it by convenient, but too dull partners, and infantile it in the soul considers completely weakwilled [slabakami]. With similar itself type men [Viktimnaya] woman it enters into the complex, with the undercurrent of relation, competing with them in the spirit of sacrifice and requiring for this special privileges. Frequently similar games literally harass both. In this place I consider it necessary to mention that the psychoanalytical groups are examined without the special detailing; therefore separate thinner differences inside them disappear. In particular, among The [viktimnykh] T- types remain without the attention the fact that they usually they are subdivided into “tragic victims” ([ET] and THOSE) and “comic victims” (tr and RT).
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    Macedonia is greek!

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    I don't know what it's like to be with an IEI, but I do relate to the female aggressor descriptions.
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    You don't think Peter is a beta introvert..?

    I've thought so for awhile now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    You don't think Peter is a beta introvert..?

    I've thought so for awhile now.
    No. He's definitely ESI. (The only other option would be LSI, but that's highly unlikely.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blanket View Post
    Macedonia is greek!
    Ahah, I got it. But I guess when they speak about SLE as Macedonian, they refer to Alexander the Great, thus much before the current naming dispute took place.
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Yeah these need much better translations

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    Ssmall was kind enough to translate the Delta ones, if you ask him maybe he'll do the Beta one too since it seems to be of interest to enough people....

    unless someone else here knows Russian...
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    i was sorta into russian lessons on the purpose... but anyways, russian is pretty much based on the IEI, sorta worldview. or somethin

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    Wow.

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