In lieu of a type me thread, tell me which functions you read into my posts.
Thanks.
In lieu of a type me thread, tell me which functions you read into my posts.
Thanks.
What's the function where you're good at explaining facts of a system? Is that ?
I remember in the + - thread you were explaining that stuff to me, and that's the only time I remember talking to you. ?
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Ah ok. I'd say you have that pretty strongly, and I'm not sure about the other functions. Couldn't tell you for certain if you're S or N right now, but if I had to guess I'd say you have .
I see the Ne and Ti.
The end is nigh
I see sheer love exuding from every pore.
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
In Austrailia, Brilliand is bigger than Bono.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
In addition to the strong logic, I see a liking of .
What do you see that's Ne and Ti?
I've used that in the past but don't want to use it as a criterion anymore. I know lots of SFs and NFs with what seems like a very strong ability to interpret causal connections, which is often reminiscent of strong Ti or Te.
In our discussion in my Ne/Si analogy thread the way you described things resonated with me and I could see quite clearly your use of "nugget" like abstractions that seemed interchangeable or Module.
And I appreciated your aggressive Ti style.
I could find specific examples if you like though.
The end is nigh
Last edited by xerx; 05-15-2009 at 12:33 AM.
Maybe, depends why and how so. If you think I'm wrong about stuff, then its not style. If you dislike my various antics, that could be style, but might also be unrelated to type.
So decide what you will.
The end is nigh
Nah, I was typing mainly on how you described the elements and your general demeanor. I do see similarities in style though, the difference being a level of maturity, which I unfortunately lack.
The end is nigh
I've never actually sat down to study you or anything.
With that in mind, the few times I've scanned some of your posts, I've left with a sense that your comfortable dealing with abstract ideas as well as attempting to make them explicit. (T)
You've never seemed to me to be struggling with trying to make something inside of you more explicit. (which is something an NF/SF would be struggling with..so it doesn't seem to be T HA to me, either).
I also don't recall any posts that dealt with sensory based information. You've seemed more comfortable with abstract information, to me.
I've always left your posts with the assumption that it was written by an NT.
Beyond that, I can't say anything else, heh.
So I guess I can't really say which specific functions have stood out to me, other than Nx + Tx (in no particular order).
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
Thanks that was a very insightful post and pretty much agrees with my prior observations. Some irrational NT is what I've thought for 99% of the time I've been studying socionics, and what I've identified with most of my life, but it's always a toss up between ILE and ILI.
I'm familiar with all systems that define quadra values and I have to say I'm probably alpha according to all of them, even the ones that contradict each other. But I'd rather reserve judgment on that because I'm skeptical of the notion of quadra values.
I'm strong in Ne, Ni, Te and Ti, and I'm a P overall. I identify a lot more with Rick's stuff on Ne-leading than most things about Ni-leading I've ever seen, but I think I still have some introverted-intuitive traits that I don't really understand.
I'm not too familiar with this, but I do remember reading something Rick had written about the 8th function driving the 1st function.
Like, I can see how Fe can drive Ne/Se into action for XeFi.
so something similar would be happening with Ni for TiNe.
Perhaps you might want to try looking for this and see if that might cover those introverted-intuitive traits of yourself?
Although, lol, Ti would be the driver for NiTe, so you might still wind up just as unsure as when you started.
Anyways, just a thought.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
You're derailing the thread because you're trying to convince me you're a certain type in order to draw a subjective similarity between us. Two things 1) this is my type thread, not yours, and 2) I can't waste my time hearing a case as subjective as yours. If you can't level more specific arguments about me without comparing me to you, then I don't really care what you have to say.
Your only statement in that vein so far was the "module" thing, and it's not even an argument because you've provided no proof, just a statement that my writing satisfies some rather trite and subjective criteria of being "modular."
I'm asking the mods to move sections of this thread to alternative theories btw.
You'll have to elaborate on this.No, why? I mean they (imo) value Ne and will therefore not write in the way Strrrng does, but I've found they (online for Ezra and Expat, both online and irl for Tom) write in a way that I'd consider dynamic.
Sort of like your Si/Ne analogy, your modular analogy and most other analogies I've heard you make about socionics?Personal system or abstraction? I'm saying that his abstractions are subjective, the metaphors he uses are chosen for personal meaning and relevence to the reader and himself. The phrases are overtly symbolic, objects have a special abstract relationship to the observer. His words are universal, they do not apply to a specific physical setting like Si would.
That's true, but what you're describing doesn't directly manifest in writing or behaviour.Yeah so can I, but they're not meant to be. In the Ni mind you should just see the intrinsic "soul" or "essense" attached to the context and leave it at that. The cutting up of the cloudy Ni into discrete conceptual frames or "nodes" (Ne) will annoy the Ni/Se. Your supposed to just see the symbolism as it is and not try and explain by some physical interaction of molecules. Ni-ers hate it when you steal their magic and explain it away with "science" (I'm speaking in general, simple terms). When you chop up their Ni into Ne bits that will fit with an Si outlook of a physical, direct, tangible (demonstrable) context (setting, environment, realm), instead of a thematic, symbolic, spiritual(?) one, they get pissed.
According to that, it's still much more concrete than Ni.More concrete than Te subs? No. The "concrete-abstract" scale traditionally goes:
Concrete <-----------------> Abstract
Se, Te, Ti, Si, Ne, Fe, Fi, Ni
Imo, Si is the least concrete, concrete element. Its subjective and dynamic, so to me Si is kind of abstract.
Glam and starfall have a modular style, because their posts are clear and mature. Modify your linguistic hypothesis a little better and look for a lot of examples, then come back.And INFp's dont have that module style. They take specific concrete objects (Se) and imbue them with subjective abstract meanings/relevence. They do not see the purpose of organizing the conceptual properties that make up an object, they'd rather find symbolic meaning based on the surface qualities of the thing in question.
This part is the most interesting thing you've said so far. It's extremely interesting because it's the alternate possibility to Model A NT/SF/ST/NF clubs. According to that, an ILE has a strong awareness of object dynamics because of Te > Fe, and strong awareness of dynamic fields because of Ni > Si.Strong in Ne? Well I think they use Ne when perceiving object statics, instead of Se
btw, I'll be gone for the rest of the weekend. I'll check back then.
There are things about myself about which I haven't been entirely forthright with the forum. I think this typing merits some consideration, since I tend to identify with ISFp more on a spiritual level than I do ENTp. The intertypes wouldn't be that different, though it's not as if I'm old enough to have had profound experience in this area. Please, don't think this is a joke; I don't find this place very funny anymore. I'm being entirely serious and not at all facetious, and I would appreciate any input you could give.
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OMG aren't I the cutest pudgy little thing? (^_^)
awww you were indeed a cute little guy :redface:
idk, Alpha NT?
EII INFj
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ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
Ti-ENTp!!!
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
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