Those with weak Si - especially Si in the superego - please tell me about your experiences with your own bodily states with regards to your sensations of food, drink, drugs, sex etc.
Those with weak Si - especially Si in the superego - please tell me about your experiences with your own bodily states with regards to your sensations of food, drink, drugs, sex etc.
Ezra, my friend is Si 6th function and is a very picky eater. He won't eat from certain supermarkets and doesn't like others to see him eat. He is fascinated that I enjoy my food so much and this seems to encourage him to enjoy it for what it is when he is around me.
... .. .
Last edited by marooned; 04-27-2009 at 08:27 PM.
Sort of similar to octopuslove, but more exaggerated, probably.
I like nice sensations, nice flavours and all that jazz -- I mean who wouldn't? -- and I like going to nice restaurants and sometimes when I'm in the library, bored out my mind by the 100th hour of trying to understand the scope of the duty for procedural fairness, I'll write about how I want to go home, curl up with a nice cup of chai and maybe work my way through a few favourite dishes and all that -- and I'm incredibly sensitive skin to skin -- most of my senses actually, though they don't always work the way they should (like, I have really fantastic hearing, but I can't seem to always get it to work like normal people hearing, so I can hear people whispering three rooms away and yet completely miss what someone is saying from a foot or two away from me) --- and god, I love the warm soft buzz of being tipsy -- but as much as I love nice things, when I'm busy, I can live for days on water, museli and apples (and coffee!) because that's all I have time for/all I have the energy to contemplate. Sensory pleasures are something that I think about if I have time -- as enjoyable as they are, they're not really priorities. And if there's too much focusing on it, I just want to scream: ok, enough of that already -- can't you're -- well, you're becoming like Hobbits?
The worst thing about Si PoLR is that I can manifest this incredible disbelief at 'weak' people -- I sort of expect people to be masters of their sense and to never be beholden to them, so I sort of expect people to keep doing things, despite headache and pain and hunger and am sort vaguely horrified or aghast when someone puts their physical sensations first (like asking a group to stop because they've got a headache) -- or even mentioning their physical state. I sort of feel not that you should push on, but that's incomprehensible and shameful to not push on -- so I'm never the first person to demand a food break, even if I'm starving and I will keep going even when I feel like I'm about to drop dead sometimes, just because I don't want to be 'weak'. I even mock people for feeling the cold sometimes (sorry idolatrie!) -- not because I am this physically indefatigable beast or anything (wouldn't that be a laugh) but I feel like not letting my physical state determining what I can accomplish is important, so I either don't notice my physical state or I actively try and block it out as much as possible -- and I expect people around me to be capable of doing that even better than I can. I remember last year during my thesis, there was this period where I worked through extreme physical exhaustion, where I would routinely pause in the middle of frenetic typing to throw up because my body was under so much stress and yet I would immediately resume the same speed, without pause or much rest.
()
3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
Well at work there were two EIEs who talked really loudly in the office. I'm sure people around them would've loved to tell them off.
Then there was another EIE who would tell me he hadn't eaten a single thing all day (and he told me this at 3pm in the afternoon).
Then there were another 2 EIEs who had these considerably long fake nails....and considering they were typing a lot of the day, i'd imagine they would've been quite hard to type with.
Some of these EIEs would have really oddly matched outfits. The two younger girls looked extremely put together, sort of overdoing it a bit.
Yup were a lot of EIEs in the HR place I worked.
It's kind of like this, although the second part is slightly different for me. I know I have very good endurance to lack of physical comfort and to cold, heat, etc, so I know I can lead people on with this, when they're exhaused I can take up their load, or their work, or help them etc etc. however, I have to take care not to overdo it (and I'm not good at knowing when I'm overdoing it or not), of course. But probably I'm slightly less Ni, since I'd never put my health on the verge in order to complete a paper; I can go a bit with sleeping less, I can easily eat basic stuff in order not to waste money that I will need later, though, stuff like that; or I can keep on going uphill, when I'm biking, even if it hurts quite badly (I notice that many of the best climbers (in cycling) are Ni-Se peak, maybe there's a connection).
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Yeah I agree with all that as well -- its very easy for me to forego 'little pleasures' if I'm saving myself for something later. With putting my health on the line -- it's not something I can stop because I just can't really shake it. I sort of -- even though I'm aching and fatigued and actually throwing up, I don't really feel it -- not until whatever I'm doing is over and then I just...collapse. Exams, competitions -- anything I need to 'focus' on -- I just defer all sensory information for later. The number of times I've finished something -- anything, including artwork I was working on -- and either felt my legs start to shake and my strength start to drain, or simply be unable to stand, shaking from exhaustion -- and yet, until the breakdown point, I don't really feel a thing -- mostly just numb and like there's this buzzing in my head that keeps me going.
()
3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
I'm living in Scandinavia, and in my experience it's much less likely for a scandinavian girl (or guy) to cook on a daily basis, while in Italy we always cook the dinner. And the emphasis on food and cooking quality is definitely much more typical of Italians, c'mon, it's clear to everybody that has been in both places. Of course, this has nothing to do with who will be the best chef.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Mmm yes then in Norway the situation I think is better (I'm in Denmark), there is a norwegian girl I share kitchen with and she cooks everyday and always does quite nice stuff, I can see it. But yes Milan is not the best place to go for a good dinner, quite expensive and also far from the sea and the fields, so not much fresh food. Of course, Laks and Sild are much better in scandinavia but in port-towns there's good fish in Italy too, of course though, 90 percent of the cities in Norway are port-cities, thus the fish will be always very fresh...
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Si - The eating dynamics of blankets of cookie fields
or to summarize this thread:
BS
*edit: Due to a technicality that Ezra specified "bodily states" I will let this slide.
The end is nigh
One common theme I've noticed in XIEs I know is an ocd hyper focus on superficial cleanliness.
It's like the combination of EJ insane constant movement with a general incompetence at Si makes them go crazy if their bodies or surroundings aren't absolutely clean.
As an example, an EIE I know was telling me about a special bar of soap he has for cleaning out his butthole when he showers. I was just standing there going "uh...tmi...and also are you insane?" He's a complete slob though if he isn't being obsessive about cleaning his room/washing his hair/etc.
My LIE mother MUST go through a cycle of cleaning the house once a week, doing the same sequence, even though half the time it isn't necessary. Meanwhile areas of the house that aren't in her sequence are filthy.
It's like they're way overcompensating for their weakness but still kinda suck at it.
ILE-Ti
6w7 sx/sp (low level of confidence)
It's not the act of cleaning, it's the WAY they clean. Too much effort in some areas, and far from enough in others. An Si type just naturally keeps things clean...they're the magic fairies who keep everything shiny and put away.
Oh and another vote for the inappropriate loudness when talking. LIEs make me want to run from the area when they're just saying "hi". They always sound like they're yelling. EIEs are a little better because of the Fe, but it's still just too much INTENSITY. Can't a brother relax without your loud incessant talking?
Last edited by Banana Pancakes; 04-28-2009 at 03:17 PM.
ILE-Ti
6w7 sx/sp (low level of confidence)
Two people - both females - in the last week or so, one a definitely EIE and another potential EIE, have called me and another sensor (probably Delta ST, although I can't tell for sure at this point) respectively a "pussy" for wanting to go inside because it was cold.
Haha, my EIE housemate is just like this. I'll get home at 5pm, and I'll see they're cooking something and say "bit early for dinner, isn't it?" and he'll say "I haven't eaten all day; I had a funsize chocolate bar at 8am".
lol, you don't have to answer systematically - they were just ideas for activities wherein we as human beings experience various sensations.
Nonetheless, what I mean when I said "sex" was how you experience it; that is, how it feels to you (if it does actually feel). So, exactly the same as with food, drink, and the rest.
This is a great topic, Ezra.
I admit, I have almost no idea what my body feels/needs at any given moment.
E.g.
* Drinking too much beer or soda... Forgetting I'm doing it... Conversely, becoming dehydrated b/c haven't had a thing to drink all day.
* Eating large amounts when not hungry... Or not eating b/c forget... Eating strange foods at strange times.
* sometimes if I see a benzo lying around, I'll take it just for lulz... i've done a lot of drugs--and perhaps the reason the experiences have been positive for me is I've always been focused on the psychological-growth aspects of them rather than the physical manifestations.
* temp... my estp mom always asks me, "aren't you cold?" "no." she will be shivering, and i will not notice the temp myself.
* sex... the sensors i know say they get off on the physical sensations... i don't... for me, it's the emotional connection... which makes sex a byproduct rather than an end in itself... during sex, i am very rarely thinking about the physical feeling.
* emotional pain is something I like to get into and sort out... physical pain... I'm either too sensitive, (e.g. i'll yell when someone sticks me with a needle,) or--i know it sounds macho and bullshit--but things like training for sports, i love... because i don't focus on the physical pain... it's almost like the pain other ppl feel doesn't exist... this is why i'm good in fights... someone could beat the hell out of me and i would not be focused enough on the pain to know.