This, pretty much. Formality is more of a Serious thing than an Aristocratic thing.Originally Posted by stray
This, pretty much. Formality is more of a Serious thing than an Aristocratic thing.
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
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I'm really not that great with being 'formal.' Sure I can put on the act and dance the dance, but at the end of the day if I have to wear a mask of politeness around a group of people just to fit in with them then I'm gonna end up disappointed. Fi/Te probably comes off as more formal to Fe/Ti valuers since it'll generally appear to be more emotionally restrained anyways.
what do you guys mean by formal? if its not showing much emotion or familiarity with people you dont know, then yeah i'm formal. i do think i have a thicker wall than most when it comes to getting to a point where i let loose around them or whatever. its not about consciously being aloof or trying to maintain some kind of aristocratic demeanor or anything, lol...it just has to do with where my boundaries are. there have been times when i've been comfortable letting my guard down right away with someone but it hardly ever happens. i like when others are familiar and informal as long as it feels natural and i dont feel pressured. i dont necessarily see formality as the "right" way to be or anything. but i appreciate when people dont take it personally and its really hard to let go of it with people who do.
Yup, I think I am formal although I don't even bother when it comes to people I don't want anything to do with or people that don't interest me at all. With close ones, that is, people I can count on it is a different story.
I used to know this Si Te guy who was so formal it made me laugh but it was also confusing and bewildering at times. He'd even be formal in texts like "hello, how are you doing this morning" before saying anything substantial. I mean, it's fine to be unassuming, but at some point you have to just dive in and be yourself. I didn't like feeling like I had to start all over again every time we talked. It was quite odd.
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Yeah, a good portion of it has to do with how well I know the person and how comfortable I am around them in general.
You get kicked out if you dance? At all? I'm pretty sure I would get kicked out at some point, then...
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Good thing I don't dance.
You might as well be right about that. I hate that kind of "democratic" hypocrisy.
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