Should Sarah Palin be impeached?

[tcaudilllg]

Here in Ohio, Bob Taft (descendent of the former president) was caught up in an ethics scandal over gifts he recieved from friends on Capitol Hill. He ended up with a rebuke by a judge after pleading no contest to the charges.

Sarah Palin has broken the law in a different way: she abused the power of her own office to deliberately harm the career of a state trooper, and all so that her family could label that trooper unfit for visitation rights with her sister's children. The larger issue is, if you cross Sarah Palin then you can expect her administration to come after you: the executive branch puts a big target sign on you. Nor will she admit fault; in fact, she is ready to do these kinds of things whenever she thinks they will serve her ambition.

If she were to get into national office, then the Valerie Plame leak would look like a tarte in comparison. Can you imagine what she would do to abortion rights clinics? She might order the Secret Service, or somebody, to investigate every single abortion provider in the nation, to harass them. She's a lose cannon ready to let loose with reckless abandon. And do not think that she would, in fact, directly attack the careers of anyone who did what Plame's husband did, like questioning the rationale for war with another country. And if we were to go to war with somebody, you would probably see the most vocal opponents of the conflict getting rounded up and put into jails.

She's a tyrant, plain and simple.... And she could be your president if you vote the wrong way in November.

[JuJu]

Here in Ohio, Bob Taft (descendent of the former president) was caught up in an ethics scandal over gifts he recieved from friends on Capitol Hill. He ended up with a rebuke by a judge after pleading no contest to the charges.

Sarah Palin has broken the law in a different way: she abused the power of her own office to deliberately harm the career of a state trooper, and all so that her family could label that trooper unfit for visitation rights with her sister's children. The larger issue is, if you cross Sarah Palin then you can expect her administration to come after you: the executive branch puts a big target sign on you. Nor will she admit fault; in fact, she is ready to do these kinds of things whenever she thinks they will serve her ambition.

If she were to get into national office, then the Valerie Plame leak would look like a tarte in comparison. Can you imagine what she would do to abortion rights clinics? She might order the Secret Service, or somebody, to investigate every single abortion provider in the nation, to harass them. She's a lose cannon ready to let loose with reckless abandon. And do not think that she would, in fact, directly attack the careers of anyone who did what Plame's husband did, like questioning the rationale for war with another country. And if we were to go to war with somebody, you would probably see the most vocal opponents of the conflict getting rounded up and put into jails.

She's a tyrant, plain and simple.... And she could be your president if you vote the wrong way in November.

A lot of ppl think she is ESE -- "The Bonvivant." lol

It does sound like she abused her power... This kinda shit happens all the time though, e.g. Mass Gov Patrick giving his wife a 150k/yr job to do essentially nothing... No impeachment... Just par for the course corruption.

Your arguments would be more effective if you left out the extremist speculation, e.g. Palin's inspection of every abortion..? I mean, I hear your argument, but c'mon.

[discojoe]

Should Barack Obama be impeached for consorting with a terrorist?

[Slacker]

Should Barack Obama be impeached for consorting with a terrorist?

Should he be impeached for serving on an educational board with a professor of education who was stupid in his youth, 35-40 years ago? You have a very broad definition of "consort".

[discojoe]

Should he be impeached for serving on an educational board with a professor of education who was stupid in his youth, 35-40 years ago? You have a very broad definition of "consort".

Oh, that's all it was? LOL.

[olduser]

he's not a terrorist, he's just a vandalist. and yeah, i'm sure during all those school board meetings barack and bill kept running off and being like, "okay dude, here's the plan, you get into the whitehouse and we'll fuck up mount rushmore, and crash the economy and everything! 1 2 3 go! terrorism!"

i'm sick of character assaults. they don't matter. a man who fucks another man's wife could probably still balance your taxes if that is what he's spent his life doing/working/studying. a man who blows up statues and monuments is still qualified to profess elementary education. etc etc

anyway what is the logic of saying he won't be fit for president because he knows someone who is a vandalist?

[munenori2]

Oh, that's all it was? LOL.

I was almost convinced by the lol here. It seemed all in capital letters and authoritative.

Also, I'm sure there are tons of shit people who had friends or family and that didn't make them bad people. This isn't directly applicable, but even in the worst case scenario I think it would be food for thought.

[UDP]

Should Barack Obama be impeached for consorting with a terrorist?

(this is not a response to DJ, just a comment in general)

aside: Now what I don't understand is why people are so surprised that governments do strange or questionable things for political reasons, when the very process of getting them elected is a bunch of "politics"

[tcaudilllg]

(this is not a response to DJ, just a comment in general)

aside: Now what I don't understand is why people are so surprised that governments do strange or questionable things for political reasons, when the very process of getting them elected is a bunch of "politics"

We've abstracted away from the character issue and instead made everything into a bunch of lcold wars between parties. So long as radicals have a vote though, this will remain the situation. Radicals vote with their hearts, not their head, and if someone seems uncommitted to their heart then they just won't vote for them. Obama is really good at dodging around radical sentiments, carefully toning his message so as not to enrage them. ****** now, did the opposite, toning his message specifically to enrage his audiences as much as possible.

[Jimbean]

Should Barack Obama be impeached for consorting with a terrorist?

Should they all be impeached for helping in the destruction of American sovereignty?

[discojoe]

I was almost convinced by the lol here. It seemed all in capital letters and authoritative.

Straw man.

Also, I'm sure there are tons of shit people who had friends or family and that didn't make them bad people. This isn't directly applicable, but even in the worst case scenario I think it would be food for thought.

Wrong. Anyone who befriends "shit people" has bad judgment.

he's not a terrorist, he's just a vandalist. and yeah, i'm sure during all those school board meetings barack and bill kept running off and being like, "okay dude, here's the plan, you get into the whitehouse and we'll fuck up mount rushmore, and crash the economy and everything! 1 2 3 go! terrorism!"

i'm sick of character assaults. they don't matter. a man who fucks another man's wife could probably still balance your taxes if that is what he's spent his life doing/working/studying. a man who blows up statues and monuments is still qualified to profess elementary education. etc etc

anyway what is the logic of saying he won't be fit for president because he knows someone who is a vandalist?

You're right. The probity and character of presidential candidates is irrelevant.

Should they all be impeached for helping in the destruction of American sovereignty?

Yes.

[FDG]

Straw man.



Wrong. Anyone who befriends "shit people" has bad judgment.



You're right. The probity and character of presidential candidates is irrelevant.



Yes.

It's actually pathetic - not strong or tough - when somebody is wrong and doesn't want to admit it.

[munenori2]

Straw man.

I wouldn't call it a straw man so much as me being entertained and sarcastic. LOL.

[olduser]

You're right. The probity and character of presidential candidates is irrelevant.

moderately important of course, but bill ayers will absolutely not be serving any function in barack obama's cabinet, and their relationship is known not to be close. so basically the republicans just want to use the words, 'terrorist' and 'obama' together in any capacity to send shivers down the spines of americans(who have every reason to fear natural security given the incredibly, spiralling out of control, number of terrorist attacks that have befallen the populace).

as for sarah palin, she probably shouldn't be impeached, what she did was a little dose of nepotism but you know, that really flies here in the states these days.

[tcaudilllg]

A lot of ppl think she is ESE -- "The Bonvivant." lol

It does sound like she abused her power... This kinda shit happens all the time though, e.g. Mass Gov Patrick giving his wife a 150k/yr job to do essentially nothing... No impeachment... Just par for the course corruption.

Your arguments would be more effective if you left out the extremist speculation, e.g. Palin's inspection of every abortion..? I mean, I hear your argument, but c'mon.

I didn't mean every abortion, I meant abortion doctors. Say, launching investigations into Planned Parenthood, that sorta thing. She'd do that to score political points with the Right, I'd wager.