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    This is why I am quite obviously



    Apologies for the quality; for some reason, it was completely out of sync (an answer to why this is the case would be appreciated).
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    *yawn*
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    *yawn*
    +1

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    "do you like Si?" -- depends on your conception of Si

    "how are you Te base?" -- because your eyes move around more than a fucking energizer bunny lol
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    lol, sry, i giggled.
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    Hey ezra, you look like someone i know.

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    I laughed all the way through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    I laughed all the way through it.

    i did at first, but then it was like "yeah, yeah, you little shit."

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    "what do you think of Beeeeeeeta"

    LOL

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    a few things that struck me:

    1. i notice you are adept at impressions. you seem to be able to put your body where you want it in virtually no time at all. it looked effortless, but then again, i dont know if you sit around and practice these things. same with the ability to project your voice according to what you are trying to communicate/imitate.

    2. it was strange how you discussed how you either like/dislike the functions, etc.. i have also noticed that you speak in these terms often. i had wondered if this is something you are comfortable with (making decisions based on likes/dislikes) or if you're trying to compensate for a weakness and sort of, as a result, making flimsy evidence more black-and-white, and therefore, more understandable to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    i did at first, but then it was like "yeah, yeah, you little shit."
    My initial reaction to this reminded me of Daniel Plainview's (Daniel Day-Lewis) reaction to Eli Sunday (Paul Dano) in There Will Be Blood, when Eli asks when his family is getting his money. If you haven't seen it, apologies. You just won't get what I'm talking about.

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    I'm dynamic as shit...
    rofl
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
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    I'm dynamic as shit...
    lmao
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    "I'm not stiff like an IJ"

    EJ's are stiff too...

    "I'm not , I don't punch people in the face"

    has nothing to do with aggression except the fact that it's correlated to S-.

    "Betas are bossy"

    What do you think of Gandhi ? He's not bossy at all... (ok, IEI's don't tend to be +0-)



    I think, you should consider being -+0 IEE. I know a -+0 IEE dude who pretty much looks like a SLE.

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    Ezra, have my babies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Ezra, have my babies.

    wow

    If you said that to me I 'd marry you right away.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    wow

    If you said that to me I 'd marry you right away.
    I'm sure Ezra's making all the arrangements as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    My initial reaction to this reminded me of Daniel Plainview's (Daniel Day-Lewis) reaction to Eli Sunday (Paul Dano) in There Will Be Blood, when Eli asks when his family is getting his money. If you haven't seen it, apologies. You just won't get what I'm talking about.
    nope, didn't see it.

    i don't like not getting things though. can you explain or would that ruin it?

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    That was a funny video there Ezra.. "Yeah, I like Si...I've got the window open"
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    Punching people in the face is not a typical Se behavior, but punching babies is.

    Maybe you are Se accepting after all?
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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    "I'm not stiff like an IJ"

    EJ's are stiff too...

    "I'm not , I don't punch people in the face"

    has nothing to do with aggression except the fact that it's correlated to S-.

    "Betas are bossy"

    What do you think of Gandhi ? He's not bossy at all... (ok, IEI's don't tend to be +0-)



    I think, you should consider being -+0 IEE. I know a -+0 IEE dude who pretty much looks like a SLE.
    I'll pretend this is all down to the language barrier.

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    can you explain or would that ruin it?
    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    satire?
    Irony is probably more relevant in this particular case. Do you like ironic humour, dbmmama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    Punching people in the face is not a typical Se behavior, but punching babies is.

    Maybe you are Se accepting after all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    You can satirize something (the recent typings?) using irony. (Alternatively, you might just crack from too much Internet and post an unusually bad self-type video.)
    guys, i thought it was obvious that ezra was satirizing it all. lol i just thought he didn't do a good job of it!

    yes, i like ironic humor, when it's done well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    You can satirize something (the recent typings?) using irony. (Alternatively, you might just crack from too much Internet and post an unusually bad self-type video.)
    Apologies. I've only ever seen "satire" being used in the context of politics. But on wikifying it, it seems satire can refer to mockery or ridicule of any given subject.

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    lol...my infj thought u were !!!


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    guys, i thought it was obvious that ezra was satirizing it all. lol i just thought he didn't do a good job of it!

    yes, i like ironic humor, when it's done well.
    Interesting...

    I'd love to see you do a better job of it.

    No, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Interesting...

    I'd love to see you do a better job of it.

    No, really.
    dude, i didn't say i could do it well, i just appreciate it when done well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    dude, i didn't say i could do it well, i just appreciate it when done well.
    come to think of it, maybe i could do it well. i'll get back with you on that one. hmmm. but i know there's a little part of me that wouldn't want anyone to take offense. if i was with a group of people that i knew well and knew me well, i could do it because we already knew i didn't mean anything by it. oh brother. deep inside, i've wished that i could be that way more and not worry what others thought. it's easier on the internet. too many people take shit personally when it's not meant to be personal. i did a lot as a kid and wished i didn't and then would go the opposite extreme and do shit that others needn't take personal and then lose friends over it. ahh, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    come to think of it, maybe i could do it well. i'll get back with you on that one. hmmm. but i know there's a little part of me that wouldn't want anyone to take offense. if i was with a group of people that i knew well and knew me well, i could do it because we already knew i didn't mean anything by it. oh brother. deep inside, i've wished that i could be that way more and not worry what others thought. it's easier on the internet. too many people take shit personally when it's not meant to be personal. i did a lot as a kid and wished i didn't and then would go the opposite extreme and do shit that others needn't take personal and then lose friends over it. ahh, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Strong ethics; probably Fe leading.
    i know that's probably true but why in the world does that bug the shit out of me? (rhetorical, to myself)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    i know that's probably true but why in the world does that bug the shit out of me? (rhetorical, to myself)
    Perhaps because you don't recognise the beauty of the Beta NF. (Answered anyway, because I want to.)

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    I for one would love if you did that dbmmama

    People shouldn't be so quick to take offence! (Say I as I close the hatch to my bunker )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Perhaps because you don't recognise the beauty of the Beta NF. (Answered anyway, because I want to.)
    now you've got me crying, all emo! fuck! fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    I for one would love if you did that dbmmama

    People shouldn't be so quick to take offence! (Say I as I close the hatch to my bunker )


    but there are really cool, nice people that i would like to be friends with that do. and if i'm really fe dom, i pick up on that so easily, readily and then act accordingly because i like them and respect that they don't like me being all emo-like and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post


    but there are really cool, nice people that i would like to be friends with that do. and if i'm really fe dom, i pick up on that so easily, readily and then act accordingly because i like them and respect that they don't like me being all emo-like and stuff.


    Hmm, not sure how to interpret this. They feel it is disrespectful of you to express yourself in a manner of which they do not approve? Even if you simply say the truth as you see it? Or you are simply joking around?

    Oh well, you are probably right it is for the best not to, but it sounds strange to me. Perhaps I simply do not understand who they are and what you had in mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post


    Hmm, not sure how to interpret this. They feel it is disrespectful of you to express yourself in a manner of which they do not approve? Even if you simply say the truth as you see it? Or you are simply joking around?

    Oh well, you are probably right it is for the best not to, but it sounds strange to me. Perhaps I simply do not understand who they are and what you had in mind
    let's see, someone like ezra, i can call him a "little shit" and be joking and not joking at the same time. i think he IS a little shit but i still like him.

    but i don't have "ezra's" in my mommy circles. there are a lot of moms that i like and have nice conversations with that if i EVER called them a little shit, i'd never be able to talk with them again. that wouldn't be any fun. yet, i guess i haven't really tried...but i know i read people well enough as to who i can talk that way with and who doesn't appreciate it.

    it's more that i don't have many people in my life that i can talk that way with without worrying about it. and i also have a couple of children that don't either and i don't believe it appropriate to speak that way with children anyway. i know children have their own personalities too and i am very aware of each of them and what they need for their own growth and development. i believe there needs to be a balance between outright rude and sugarcoating things. and it's about what that individual child needs...

    if i had a wp as a child, i would intuitively know he needs a "chill" mom and so i would be chill with him. and if i had a ezra for a child, he needs someone who can knock him down a block to straighten out his massive ego, yet still allowing him to feel as if he was "in charge." and if i had a juju, i would intuitively know he needs a sweet soft touch. on and on.

    i dont know who i am, as a person, because i believe so strongly in accomodating and being whatever the "other" needs. part of my name is mama, not just because i am a literal mama but because i know my purpose this lifetime is to nurture other's souls toward their potential. and me changing for what they NEED to do so is part of that. sometimes that gets me sad because i don't feel free to "be myself" but then i really don't know "myself" other than that purpose anyway.

    i do know that the one time i can just say stuff is when i'm leading a workshop or public speaking because i can't accomodate to individuals, i have to be myself to the group, which is made up of individuals and the energies are all different, so, i just be myself then.

    edit: i also try to do it online in groups like this, but i don't think it comes out very naturally. it feels forced. i do like it though. but don't like it when someone else doesn't like it. ahhhh!!!!

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    Just watched the video - you're a scream, Ezra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    let's see, someone like ezra, i can call him a "little shit" and be joking and not joking at the same time. i think he IS a little shit but i still like him.

    but i don't have "ezra's" in my mommy circles. there are a lot of moms that i like and have nice conversations with that if i EVER called them a little shit, i'd never be able to talk with them again. that wouldn't be any fun. yet, i guess i haven't really tried...but i know i read people well enough as to who i can talk that way with and who doesn't appreciate it.

    it's more that i don't have many people in my life that i can talk that way with without worrying about it. and i also have a couple of children that don't either and i don't believe it appropriate to speak that way with children anyway. i know children have their own personalities too and i am very aware of each of them and what they need for their own growth and development. i believe there needs to be a balance between outright rude and sugarcoating things. and it's about what that individual child needs...

    if i had a wp as a child, i would intuitively know he needs a "chill" mom and so i would be chill with him. and if i had a ezra for a child, he needs someone who can knock him down a block to straighten out his massive ego, yet still allowing him to feel as if he was "in charge." and if i had a juju, i would intuitively know he needs a sweet soft touch. on and on.

    i dont know who i am, as a person, because i believe so strongly in accomodating and being whatever the "other" needs. part of my name is mama, not just because i am a literal mama but because i know my purpose this lifetime is to nurture other's souls toward their potential. and me changing for what they NEED to do so is part of that. sometimes that gets me sad because i don't feel free to "be myself" but then i really don't know "myself" other than that purpose anyway.

    i do know that the one time i can just say stuff is when i'm leading a workshop or public speaking because i can't accomodate to individuals, i have to be myself to the group, which is made up of individuals and the energies are all different, so, i just be myself then.

    edit: i also try to do it online in groups like this, but i don't think it comes out very naturally. it feels forced. i do like it though. but don't like it when someone else doesn't like it. ahhhh!!!!
    You make a good mother. I just know it.

    Quote Originally Posted by unefille View Post
    Just watched the video - you're a scream, Ezra.
    What's a scream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    What's a scream?
    Hmm, I'm discovering that a lot of the phrases I'm accustomed to are unique to the Australian lingo, it seems. Interesting. A 'scream' means I find you hilarious. It's like saying 'you're a riot' or 'you're a crack up' or something similiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unefille View Post
    Hmm, I'm discovering that a lot of the phrases I'm accustomed to are unique to the Australian lingo, it seems. Interesting. A 'scream' means I find you hilarious. It's like saying 'you're a riot' or 'you're a crack up' or something similiar.
    Ahhh, I thought you might be Australian! I was looking on Urban Dictionary, and one of the words was Australian slang, and it meant hilarious.

    Why, thank you, unefille.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    Punching people in the face is not a typical Se behavior, but punching babies is.

    Maybe you are Se accepting after all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Ahhh, I thought you might be Australian! I was looking on Urban Dictionary, and one of the words was Australian slang, and it meant hilarious.

    Why, thank you, unefille.
    I just went and looked it up on Urban Dictionary as well and all the other definitions were about the sound women make during intercourse/orgasm. I see I'm going to have to be a lot more careful with my language from now on. :S

    @ Tereg: awesome vid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    let's see, someone like ezra, i can call him a "little shit" and be joking and not joking at the same time. i think he IS a little shit but i still like him.

    but i don't have "ezra's" in my mommy circles. there are a lot of moms that i like and have nice conversations with that if i EVER called them a little shit, i'd never be able to talk with them again. that wouldn't be any fun. yet, i guess i haven't really tried...but i know i read people well enough as to who i can talk that way with and who doesn't appreciate it.

    it's more that i don't have many people in my life that i can talk that way with without worrying about it. and i also have a couple of children that don't either and i don't believe it appropriate to speak that way with children anyway. i know children have their own personalities too and i am very aware of each of them and what they need for their own growth and development. i believe there needs to be a balance between outright rude and sugarcoating things. and it's about what that individual child needs...

    if i had a wp as a child, i would intuitively know he needs a "chill" mom and so i would be chill with him. and if i had a ezra for a child, he needs someone who can knock him down a block to straighten out his massive ego, yet still allowing him to feel as if he was "in charge." and if i had a juju, i would intuitively know he needs a sweet soft touch. on and on.

    i dont know who i am, as a person, because i believe so strongly in accomodating and being whatever the "other" needs. part of my name is mama, not just because i am a literal mama but because i know my purpose this lifetime is to nurture other's souls toward their potential. and me changing for what they NEED to do so is part of that. sometimes that gets me sad because i don't feel free to "be myself" but then i really don't know "myself" other than that purpose anyway.

    i do know that the one time i can just say stuff is when i'm leading a workshop or public speaking because i can't accomodate to individuals, i have to be myself to the group, which is made up of individuals and the energies are all different, so, i just be myself then.

    edit: i also try to do it online in groups like this, but i don't think it comes out very naturally. it feels forced. i do like it though. but don't like it when someone else doesn't like it. ahhhh!!!!
    I think this post is the clearest example I can find of her being an E-type Two.

    Reading this instantly reminded me of this:

    http://www.enneagramworldwide.com/me...wide/type2.mov

    Edit: And to some extent this: http://www.enneagram.com/9types/type2.html
    INFj

    9w1 sp/sx

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