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    Default My conversation with an ILI on ILE and SEE in MY EIE eyes

    This is an Conversation I have with an ILI male, who has dated an ILe for two years, in which it didn't end very well. He has no back ground on Socionics, and I try to explain to him that he was in a contrary relationship with her and that it is very psychologically unstable. I told him that he should find an SEE,

    Mpiazza000: you guys have what we called a contrary relation
    [11:16] Mpiazza000: definity you guys find each other attractive at first
    [11:16] Mpiazza000: then find each other i bit mistrustful after..
    [11:17] CloakingKnight: yea
    [11:17] CloakingKnight: thats every relationship (he is being unsure about socionics)
    [11:17] Mpiazza000: did u think that you weren't able to communicate with her in a right psychological distance?
    [11:18] CloakingKnight: communicate?
    [11:18] CloakingKnight: thru what kind of medium
    [11:18] CloakingKnight: ?
    [11:19] Mpiazza000: umm
    [11:19] Mpiazza000: when you are with someone
    [11:19] Mpiazza000: especially with an romance partner
    [11:19] Mpiazza000: and in your case
    [11:19] Mpiazza000: for about 3 years you have been with her
    [11:19] Mpiazza000: did you ever feel that there was a gap
    [11:20] CloakingKnight: :-\????
    [11:20] CloakingKnight: lol
    [11:20] CloakingKnight: there are always gaps
    [11:20] CloakingKnight: in all relationships
    [11:20] Mpiazza000: that there is a unstable psychological distance and cannot understand each other fully
    [11:20] CloakingKnight: yea i understand
    [11:20] CloakingKnight: but the size of the gap is hard to explain
    [11:21] Mpiazza000: did she feel like you are betraying her, and in return you might think she is betraying you?
    [11:21] Mpiazza000: sometimes you can even supress her activity
    [11:21] Mpiazza000: and in doing so,
    [11:22] Mpiazza000: she might worry about every next step she do
    [11:24] CloakingKnight: :-D
    [11:24] Mpiazza000: anyway,
    [11:25] CloakingKnight: wells sometimes it's better not not to know the truth (He thinks that socionics will affect his social life)
    [11:25] CloakingKnight: maybe my preference is not the same as others
    [11:25] Mpiazza000: definity
    [11:25] Mpiazza000: you can love the person to death and try as hard as you can but they are just not compatible to u
    [11:25] CloakingKnight: so... when she finds someone else
    [11:25] CloakingKnight: let the whole games start over again
    [11:25] Mpiazza000: what game
    [11:26] CloakingKnight: love
    [11:26] Mpiazza000: theres no game...
    [11:26] CloakingKnight: / relationship
    [11:26] Mpiazza000: you just have to find the right one
    [11:26] CloakingKnight: wells i think it is a form of a game
    [11:26] Mpiazza000: you should find the hyperactive girls...
    [11:26] Mpiazza000: but very caring
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: not showing fake emotion
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: the geniue one
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: a little bit naive, haha
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: doesn't really know what life means
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: you are there to help them on that
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: they are there to lighten you up
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: and bring out the good side in you
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: they are called the ESFp
    [11:28] CloakingKnight: lol
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: lol
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: yea man i am serious
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: they are very good people
    [11:28] CloakingKnight: wells thats good
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: and they are your dual
    [11:28] CloakingKnight: used to think that way too
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: think which way?
    [11:29] CloakingKnight: till one special lady knocks all that philosophy away
    [11:29] CloakingKnight: and then u left with nothing
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: ha
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: ha
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: ha
    [11:29] CloakingKnight: only reality
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: that was so good danny
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: this is what you called
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: esfp-intp dual

    I think this really does show what you called an true ESFp-INTp dual, he did not know anything about socionics but as you can see he proberly knows that the ESFp are his dual, this shows alot how duality effects other and that the Introvert parnters always know that the Extrovert partner is too good for him/her...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
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    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    It has been my experience that you cannot teach the "muggles" socionics from a socionics perspective (e.g. basing your assumptions about relations based on socionics reasoning).

    You have to be SLY about it if you want to help a friend with their relationships. Don't make them think you came to your conclusions "based on evaluations of their leading function" etc. or they will blow it off and think you don't know what you're talking about.

    I find it easier to help people with relationships that aren't favorable by pointing out the not so obvious improper behavior in others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    imo, here you have unconsciously described your dual ESE:

    [11:26] Mpiazza000: you should find the hyperactive girls...
    [11:26] Mpiazza000: but very caring
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: not showing fake emotion
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: the geniue one
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: a little bit naive, haha
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: doesn't really know what life means
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: you are there to help them on that
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: they are there to lighten you up
    [11:27] Mpiazza000: and bring out the good side in you
    Dee, ESE is definity not my dual, NOR is any SI vauling type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Just so I made myself clear in the first post...




























    WTF


    [11:28] Mpiazza000: they are called the ESFp
    [11:28] CloakingKnight: lol
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: lol
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: yea man i am serious
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: they are very good people
    [11:28] CloakingKnight: wells thats good
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: and they are your dual
    [11:28] CloakingKnight: used to think that way too
    [11:28] Mpiazza000: think which way?
    [11:29] CloakingKnight: till one special lady knocks all that philosophy away
    [11:29] CloakingKnight: and then u left with nothing
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: ha
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: ha
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: ha
    [11:29] CloakingKnight: only reality
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: that was so good danny
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: this is what you called
    [11:29] Mpiazza000: esfp-intp dual
    Yes, he sounds completely and utterly convinced and thrilled at this information you've bestowed upon him.


    Ugh...




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