Can anyone tell me, based on their observations of LSIs, what type of physical movements they have? I'm wondering, because a person who I think is LSI appears pretty physically uncoordinated to me. What are their Si skills like?
Can anyone tell me, based on their observations of LSIs, what type of physical movements they have? I'm wondering, because a person who I think is LSI appears pretty physically uncoordinated to me. What are their Si skills like?
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
No one wants to talk about LSIs? :-(
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
http://www.socionics.com/prof/istj.htm
Originally Posted by Sergei Sillypants
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Bad coordination is probably a characteristic of a dominant Ti function. I say this because I have bad coordination, myself.
Not bad coordination as such - more jerky, forceful movements. The person seems to me to be using more muscle power than is necessary. For example she'll push a button with her whole arm rather than just her finger. And she walks like she's on a mission all the time, in a powerwalking style even when she's not trying to.
Has anyone noticed these sort of movements from LSIs?
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
idk really know, I can see my best friend being heavy handed easily.
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
I don't know, I believe maybe using too much force instead of the normal amount.
or being very rigid in movements.
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
I'm fairly certain my step-mom is LSI-Se and her movements are very competent. That's the best way to describe it. If there's something to be done it's point A, point B, do action, done. No need to exaggerate (unless she's in a bad mood) or indulge in superfluous action. She just does.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Perhaps they seem unnecessary to you because your Si base naturally expects that another S-ego's sensory function will work in a similar manner to your own, but that's not really true. Where you desire to set an environment to rights to create internal harmony, Se egos, particularly those with a rational temperament, will be more inclined to use their external environment as a slave function to Ti or Fi. So their purpose is well defined in their own minds, but to you all you see is them doing things that do not satisfy the internal harmony of Si. Additionally, it may be a consequence of Dynamic vs. Static functions. Se is just an entirely different way of seeing and doing things.
While I don't feel this way about Ni particularly (Ni is just some weird exoticism), I do feel that way about Te. I can't see the purpose of Te when I can use Ti. It's not that Te is useless or unnecessary, I just can't see why anyone would want to use it when Ti is so much better.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
Yeah, I think you're right. What I don't understand though, is why an Se dominant's actions don't look 'too much' to me. I can see they use more force, but it just looks like it's natural for them. Like it's coming from within them or something. Idk. It's my mum I'm wondering about. I'm not even sure she's LSI - that's why I was asking.
Lol - Ni being weird exoticism :-)
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Probably because people mistakenly identify Se as an overt and excessive manipulation of the environment. Certainly, Se-egos may act that way, but there are plenty of Se's who manage to live their lives in a way that is much more subdued. Se is just like Ne except it's externalized. Se is like viewing the kinetic potential of something. How can this be used in a physical sense. What you do with it afterwards is totally up to you. If anything, one would expect that ISTj would be very subdued in their manner of using Se because the IJ temperament is generally more controlled and understated, whereas ESTp would generally be a little more direct and overstated with their EP temperament. Of course, this is a generalization, but I think you get my point.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
Yeah, I think that the people most likely to make excessive use of such force, by which I mean to an impractical and potentially self-defeating extent, are types that value Se but are not strong in it.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Yeah. I've probably mistyped her. It's frustrating. I can't work her out. :-(
Thanks for your input, people. :-)
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
It's ok, Jem. I can't type my mom either, though it's been a joint effort on both our parts. She's hard to pin down. We're starting to think she might be INTj, which gets kind of foggy when you get into female subtypes. But she's a little too artistic for LII most of the time, which is kind of tricky. She tends to get a lot of satisfaction out of photography in particular, and she has a really good eye for it, which is not something you would expect out of an LII. I keep going back to ILI, but that doesn't exactly seem right either. If she were ILI she would probably be Ni subtype. Bah, anyways. Off-topic.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
Perhaps LIE? Just throwing it out there because I think LIE and LSI can mistype somewhat easily and LIEs definitely tend to be clumsy.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Mm, maybe. I haven't really considered the extroverted types because she's got all the traits of an introvert. But I guess I should. :-)
It's hard to type someone you're really close to because you know all the contradictions about them that seem to rule out every type you consider.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
I think a lot of adults (particularly parents) tend to give off the impression of introversion. It's part of that settling down deal, extroversion becomes so much less obvious because you have a lot of responsibilities that keep you busy but seem necessary rather than a product of nervous energy. A lot of people become more subdued with age. I know for myself I've mellowed out a lot in the past couple of years, even. I used to be Gilly-style insane, if you can imagine.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
From the way Mum describes herself when she was younger though, she's gotten more extroverted with age. Apparently she was super shy as a girl. She's the sort of person who forces herself to interact with people for her own personal development. She's good one-on-one, but she doesn't small talk at all and has a fear of public speaking.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
But there's also a difference between shyness and extroversion and shyness and introversion. For instance I had an INTj friend who hated it when people assumed he was an introvert just because he was quiet. Although he IS an introvert, regardless of what he claims, lol. He's INTj to the core. But in any case, I know some painfully shy extroverts and some rather gregarious introverts.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
Then there's this info.
She doesn't fit any of the Extroverted qualities except for the ones below - but these seem to me to be referring to a lack of F rather than extroversion
*often unsure of what ties actually exist between them and others
*often afraid of losing control of their inner world (feelings, reactions to external stimuli)
*mismanaging their inner world; trying to make sense of and find themselves
*can become drifty and keep changing their external situation without changing their attitudes and inner world
*develop and look after partners' external life (activities, interests, circle of friends, useful opportunities)
And the commanding, assertive voice one. Lol
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
I've met extroverts who thrive on human interaction and get depressed and drawn out when they spend too much time alone, but are often very shy in large groups. It's not that they don't enjoy themselves in a group atmosphere, it's that they're unsure of themselves. They aren't necessarily comfortable with the social etiquettes involved with group dynamics. They're still extroverts though. They still need that kind of energy in large quantities in order to stay energized. They're just unsure of themselves.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
Last edited by Chocolate; 07-03-2008 at 02:12 PM.
IEE. subtype.
Oh ok. :-)You wouldn't use any of those really. I would just say "raised bumps". :-)
IEEs tend to be less 'extroverted' than other 'extroverts' though.
But why would they have to be messed up anyway? What about yourself? You were saying that you have the qualities of an extrovert. That's not typical.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Lefty
ENFJ
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