Se Leading Stereotypes & Misconceptions

[Ezra]

1. They aren't always these placid, calm individuals who make you cry with one perfectly executed comment.

2. They don't stand there dishing out orders directly. They may do this on occasion, just as they do the above once in a while, but it doesn't characterise base Se.

3. They're not people who attack you every minute of every day. Yes, they are confrontational. Yes, they are challenging. This is the nature of Se. But they do not insult you constantly.

4. They're not idiots who just want to "get the ball rolling" for the sake of it. There is method in making something happen. They may not well foresee events like strong Niists might, but they certainly know how to work with the materials or resources they have and create something with them.

5. They don't spend all of their time organising people and their strengths and weaknesses. Se leading people have downtime too, just like any normal human being.

[strrrng]

what about barfighting? Se totally = barfighting, right?

[Mariano Rajoy]

what about barfighting? Se totally = barfighting, right?

Barfighting is for every type.

However, Se totally = prison.

[machintruc]

Barfighting is for every type.

However, Se totally = prison.

What do you think of S- variants of SEI and SLI ?

[Christy B]

What do you think of S- variants of SEI and SLI ?

Barfighting is totally for SLI-Te types, and some LSE-Si (from my experience).

Oh yeah and SLE of course!!!! : )

[meatburger]

Barfighting is totally for SLI-Te types, and some LSE-Si (from my experience).

Oh yeah and SLE of course!!!! : )

*hits Christy on the back with a stool* - Its on biatch

[Joy]

Barfighting is for every type.

However, Se totally = prison.

[Joy]

I don't remember Rocky being violent or ill-tempered or aggressive at all... boxing was just a sport for him.

[marooned]

Out of curiousity, what do you make of Meatburgers post earlier in the thread?

Not really anything. He's describing two leading people he knows...

Well, I could try and find it on Ricks blog where he's talking about one of the Rocky films (I think he uses it to refer to Fi as well..but I'd better check as I'm not trusting my memory this evening aha)

I found it. I didn't have an issue with any mention of on that either. Though I found the statement "and related yelling ensues" to be rather amusing, lol.

I'm not aware of any mentions of being tied to people losing their temper, nor do I really see why it would be.

Anyway, maybe can be "correlated" to violence in the same way that can be correlated to being fake/phoney and can be correlated to being health-conscious, etc. Maybe it's a connection that's so loose it doesn't mean anything...

[strrrng]

I'm working from memory here, so I could be incorrect, but as I recall-the wiki does correlate Se with physical aggression..even violence, I certainly recall something similar to this in the functional description of ESTp. Rick frequently makes references to people loosing their temper with Se. Infact..one such example occurs when he's discussing one of the Rocky films.

people like to make this association, but it's utterly idiotic.