Question for my Identicals

[theMime.]

ISFps, do you ever have difficulty putting your thoughts into words?

I constantly struggle to find the right words to say what I'm thinking, for some reason it's very difficult most of the time. I mean of course not with simple things but sometimes thoughts that are only slightly complex drive me insane because I can't match the words to the thoughts.

Here's another question: Do you think in words? A lot of the time I don't. My thoughts can be weird...abstract...I suppose I think in impressions a lot among other things.

[theMime.]

AGH!!!

I JUST SUBMITTED THAT TWICE ON ACCIDENT!

Ignore the copy of this thread.

[theMime.]

Oops?

yes. oops.

[xyz]

If I were an ISFp, my answer would most definitely be yes.

[Mediator Kam]

Mime, usually not. I usually know what I am trying to say. But if there is a concept in my head that has not been put into words, I struggle terribly.

[theMime.]

Mime, usually not. I usually know what I am trying to say. But if there is a concept in my head that has not been put into words, I struggle terribly.

Funny, I had a feeling you were going to say that.

[force my hand]

If I were an ISFp, my answer would most definitely be yes.

LOL x2

[Mediator Kam]

Funny, I had a feeling you were going to say that.

oo wow how did you know I was going to say that exactly. Before I thought of it a little, I was just going to nod and smile.

[theMime.]

oo wow how did you know I was going to say that exactly. Before I thought of it a little, I was just going to nod and smile.

I didn't know you were going to say that EXACTLY.
I had a feeling you MIGHT say somethign ALONG THOSE LINES.
Something about how what I said wasn't really true for you.

[Rubicon]

Yeah - I think in impressions too. But I like to translate those impressions into words, if only to clarify the matter for myself. Once I've done that, it's all there and I'm good to go. :-) Sometimes I feel very eloquent, other times it definitely feels like something's disconnected. I think this is usually the case when I'm nervous or stressed or tired.

[theMime.]

I prolly made it seem worse than it is.
I mean it's not so bad that it actually impairs my communication with others or anything.
And actually most of the time I CAN put those abstract thoughts into words it can just take a really really long time though.

[theMime.]

Yeah - I think in impressions too. But I like to translate those impressions into words, if only to clarify the matter for myself. Once I've done that, it's all there and I'm good to go. :-) Sometimes I feel very eloquent, other times it definitely feels like something's disconnected. I think this is usually the case when I'm nervous or stressed or tired.

hmmm.

[misutii]

The few vivid, complex, and insightful flashes of thought I have are lost in communication. I end up sounding confused and dumb to other people. That's my problem.

I like the impressions thing you mentioned. Actually, I agree with pretty much everything you said.

Actually I think this happens to IEIs too. Whenever I've went back to read through things I've posted I've felt like almost, or very, embarrassed, like even though at the time I wrote it it seemed fine now it just seems dumb - for this reason I try to avoid reading anything I've written. I think this is where Te-PoLR for INFps and ISFps plays a role. Like when we're talking/typing we're operating on an more of an emotional level, not thinking things through, then someone makes a criticism we're not prepared for it goes straight to heart, makes our faces pale, and we suddenly start communicating in an extremely formal, slower-paced way, using correct punctuation and grammar (no OMGs or LOLs! or AHHHHHH) purposefully trying too hard not to look like an idiot. And this extends to other things, like I think actors/actresses that are IxFp are often the ones that can't bear watching the movies they star in without getting an anxiety attack lol.

[Rubicon]

Actually I think this happens to IEIs too. Whenever I've went back to read through things I've posted I've felt like almost, or very, embarrassed, like even though at the time I wrote it it seemed fine now it just seems dumb - for this reason I try to avoid reading anything I've written. I think this is where Te-PoLR for INFps and ISFps plays a role. Like when we're talking/typing we're operating on an more of an emotional level, not thinking things through, then someone makes a criticism we're not prepared for it goes straight to heart, makes our faces pale, and we suddenly start communicating in an extremely formal, slower-paced way, using correct punctuation and grammar (no OMGs or LOLs! or AHHHHHH) purposefully trying too hard not to look like an idiot. And this extends to other things, like I think actors/actresses that are IxFp are often the ones that can't bear watching the movies they star in without getting an anxiety attack lol.

I relate to feeling like an idiot about things I've said that I haven't thought through properly - occaaaaaaasionally about things I've written, but not so much, because I'm usually not operating on an emotional level when I'm writing - well, maybe initially - but I take advantage of the fact that you can edit to your heart's content before you release it to the public. :-) What you wrote about how a criticism that you're not expecting affects you - I certainly relate to that ... but as far as the reaction goes I don't think I would start acting formal. I would make light of it or try to joke about it so as to make it appear like it didn't affect me much ... unless I feel it was unwarranted - then I might counterattack . But I find it interesting what you said - because I've noticed INTps doing that - suddenly retreating and acting formal when they're offended. I think it's more important for ISFps to present a good image (externally), so if someone got me in my polr, I would be like "LOL! Yeah - I can't believe I'm so dumb!" - while inwardly kicking myself.

[Creepy-bg]

I agree.

yes-man

[Khola aka Bee]

YES. THAT. WORDS.

[theMime.]

I often have the experience of reading something someone has written heard something someone has said and going "AGH! I've been trying to figure out how to say that for weeks!" when they were able to articulate it right then and there.

[theMime.]

I don't think it's easy for anyone to put their thoughts into words. Some people may have a easier time blowing hot air tho.

This is a obvious statement. I couldn't figure out a convoluted way to say it with lots of descriptions and examples.

The statement is not trivial.

Misunderstanding is just one person away..

You do have a point.
People of all types will at times have difficulty putting things into words.

[theMime.]

It may not be that they thought of it right then and there... but rather that they chewed on those thoughts for a long time and found a moment to say it.

Yeah I thought about that. In some instances that was the case but in others it wasn't.