Off-the-wall ISTj looking to expell me from school

[tcaudilllg]

I got a bad grade on a test (thanks to the total Ne incompetence of my instructor), and after saying a few unkind words to her face ("I can't believe you failed me on this. I think I'm going to drop the class after this (a feasible option because only two exams are graded in the class, and a failing grade in one). Idiot.") she has decided to recommend my suspension from Miami University. I was quite angry about the grade -- considerable levels of bias were leveled in the critique of my test. Beyond that, this is HISTORY for crying out loud: INTjs DO NOT fail history as surely as Ni and Te are lodged in their id and directing toward every historically relevant bit of data out there.

Witness such gems as "the Lusitania sinking DID NOT contribute to U.S. suspicions of hostile intent by Germany" and "Darwin's theory of Natural Selection DOES NOT imply survival of the fittest". To INTjs... this stuff is trivial. That's the point though: I'm being discriminated against on basis of both my creativity -- which the instructor fears -- and my beliefs.

What's really going on, is that I in my naive, trusting way, approached her about the possibility of Saddam Hussein having had strong progressive instincts, something that most of you here know I've researched carefully and believe has considerable merit. She didn't like this at all and apparently thinks I've got to be stopped.... It may have been over the top to insult her, but hey, we're all adults... aren't we?

Stature? Well the first thing she can do is get off her high horse. I'm taking this very seriously though: if I get expelled from Miami, that'll go on my record and it may prove difficult to re-enroll anywhere. And, a suspension effectively merits expulsion because I've already made a loan for $2250 that is due six months after I "leave" college. Which means, I can't just back down. Even if I am suspended/expelled, I've got to do something to change their minds somehow.... As you all know, I'm all too politically resourceful.... Set +Ti behind +Te and let 'er rip! The unknown quality, which I'm actually more worried about, is the age of the board members, because if they're "over the hill", so to speak, Jung says they have a completely different thinking style that is all too accepting of proposed punishment for "upstart youngsters"....

Anyway, what to do about ISTj bitch?

[PotatoSpirit]

Anyway, what to do about ISTj bitch?

Suck it up.

[Rubicon]

maybe try apologising for insulting her

[Kristiina]

Make an official complaint that you'd like the test reviewed by another teacher. make it extremely polite and avoid any contact with that ISTj teacher. If you do have contact with her, be very calm and dry and polite, but not dismissive. Just very official. Also be willing to admit that you lost your temper and told her things which are unappropriate to say to a teacher. Make sure that higher powers know that it's a simple personality clash between two individuals and not a good reason to end a student's studies in the university.

[Suomea]

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[Mariano Rajoy]

It may have been over the top to insult her, but hey, we're all adults... aren't we?

expulsion because I've already made a loan for $2250 that is due six months after I "leave" college. Which means, I can't just back down.

Funny post.

Your student loans can be post-poned for ages. All you have to do is provide proof of absence of income and a signature, and you get 6 additional months. Rinse, repeat.

Meh. You can get into a university somewhere. Give it a bit of time and one of em will give you another chance, or just go to Tech school. And $2250 can be paid back very quickly.

[UDP]

I got a bad grade on a test (thanks to the total Ne incompetence of my instructor), and after saying a few unkind words to her face ("I can't believe you failed me on this. I think I'm going to drop the class after this (a feasible option because only two exams are graded in the class, and a failing grade in one). Idiot.")
...
Anyway, what to do about ISTj bitch?

If you know so much about socionics I find it hard that you are so easy to blame others functions for your problems. We've seen you go off the handle here before. Let me ask you a question, does it really make you feel better to blame this problem on the instructor's perceived polr? I'd be wary of using that as a major cop out. I'm sure you are mature enough to get that, but based on the nature of your post, looks like you were asking for someone to say it to you.


The last sentence should be, what should I do about my inability to deal with this situation (which I created) in the best way, and prevent this from happening in the future.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Apologise to her. Basically she's doing a job and she doesn't need you insulting her, regardless of her type.

[redbaron]

Yeah I kind of agree with the people who are saying to apologize. Even if you don't feel sorry. You have to just back down and let her be who she needs to be so that she doesn't expel you. just my humble opinion. I've had to learn when to let go of my need to be right. It's just not worth it sometimes. But only you can decide if this is one of those times.

[tcaudilllg]

If you know so much about socionics I find it hard that you are so easy to blame others functions for your problems. We've seen you go off the handle here before. Let me ask you a question, does it really make you feel better to blame this problem on the instructor's perceived polr? I'd be wary of using that as a major cop out. I'm sure you are mature enough to get that, but based on the nature of your post, looks like you were asking for someone to say it to you.


The last sentence should be, what should I do about my inability to deal with this situation (which I created) in the best way, and prevent this from happening in the future.

Oh, scared of a little +Ne bearing down against -Ne, are we? That settles it: you're ISTj.

I will never yield to fear. Ever.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Oh, scared of a little +Ne bearing down against -Ne, are we? That settles it: you're ISTj.

I will never yield to fear. Ever.

If he was istj (and you are intj) you would be comparative and there would be no real problem there.

Anyway..

Dude, no need not to yield to fear, but you know there is a point in UDP there..for instance..remember how you spoke to Jessica when she was just doing her job. It seems like you've possibly did pretty much the same thing with your teacher.

Maybe your teacher is wrong. Thing is you know your not gonna get anywhere by speaking like you do, or at least you should/could have realised you won't - in this particular situation. Aren't you clever enough to not keep making same mistake? Hey we all say things then realise we shouldn't, then it's time to (usually) apologise. Bottom line here though-you run the risk of getting kicked out of college over something you could have handled better.

I don't think your not giving in to fear..I think you are just being childish. However dude, way to look at it (and i'm trying to help) is to say you are not going to give in to your fear of admitting you might have made a mistake.

[force my hand]

Oh, scared of a little +Ne bearing down against -Ne, are we? That settles it: you're ISTj.

I will never yield to fear. Ever.

Then I guess you'll be the toughest dude working at Starbucks.

[Markuz]

Then I guess you'll be the toughest dude working at Starbucks.

[UDP]

Oh, scared of a little +Ne bearing down against -Ne, are we? That settles it: you're ISTj.

I will never yield to fear. Ever.

And so, we see how Robespierre "led" a totally unsuccessful "revolution".



Just because I don't say "there there" and tell you how great you are doesn't mean I'm your enemy, nor say anything about your type.

[Jimbean]

Oh, scared of a little +Ne bearing down against -Ne, are we? That settles it: you're ISTj.

I will never yield to fear. Ever.

Regardless of whether there is fear or not, there are still consequences. Reality is not emotional like you and I. If I were you, I would first put this into perspective and then deal with it more logically.

[Brilliand]

Look to your own PoLR. It isn't fair for you to mistreat her any more than it was for her to mistreat your . So consider where your common ground is () and work from there. That professor isn't in charge of the university... work within the system.

[aestrivex]

tcaud, i'm glad you're being suspended. you don't belong anywhere near academia.

[tcaudilllg]

I had a hearing today, in which I was summarily suspended. I had previously had a dispute with a smart-alec financial aid advisor, which was taken into account also.... I had deliberately toned down my approach since then (the dispute was resolved), and had thought I was safe in my chosen approach (no gestures this time); far be it from me to suspect that universities gave their teachers nigh dictatorial power over their teaching and assessment. The instructor, who had uncanny aptitude for remembering the sequence of events as they happened... (nevermind, I think she wrote them down after I left) said about as much about my "unkempt" physical appearance (I was sporting a light beard and long, curly hair at the time) and my habit of coming in late to class (but attending!) as she did about the encounter. Clearly she wanted to portray me in as negative a light as possible; particularly, she tried to paint me as "weird" and "disturbing".

What's interesting about the judgement, is that I was cited on a very vague charge: other physical or mental harm.

What is that? A clause after the handbook entry suggests that it is a means by which the university can impunge people who have been accused of sexual assault/molestation but were later cleared of the charges: that's right, the institution is so extreme that it does not even respect the findings of its own investigative processes as a basis for justice! But more to the point, this charge is one of those "the administration looks out for its own/we don't know how to really deal with this so we're going to just suspend you and be done with it rather it is just or not" kinds of procedual ambiguity. This ambiguity is intolerable and I demand justice.

Good news everyone! Extremist practice in academia is something supersocion theory allows us to directly comprehend and confront. I don't figure I've anything to lose by asking difficult questions at the hearing... I'll absolutely question the wisdom of allowing fringe instructors to insult by the tip of their grading pen those beacons of tomorrow they disagree with, something that can be demonstrated as artificially lowering grade averages for those students who are unlucky enough to be stuck having them. By any degree of logic, the personal opinion of an instructor of a student should NEVER be a factor of their grade: demonstrated understanding of knowledge should itself be the exclusive criterion. With an accurate model of the dynamic underlying extremism in hand (function oppression), we can finally argue for rules mandating that teachers who have a history of conflict with their students only grade their students by standardized testing. Measures should be implemented to make the reporting of conflict-prone teachers as stress-free as possible. Grades will rise and university communities will become more wholesome. The extremists will think it unfair, but they hate themselves anyway so why lose sleep over it? Sucks to be them, but we didn't write the genome and it would suck a lot more for the majority to leave them be!

People of all political stripes -- conservative, progressive, liberal, communitarian, traditionalists (the paleo-political types as defined in political science), . Finally the individualist revolutionary is free from the fanatical zealotry of the traditionalist stalwart; the liberal is free from the close-mindedness of the conservative fringe; the conservative is free to attest to their beliefs in the face of the liberal radical; and the traditionist who upholds time tested standards of activity is free to prove their academic metal in the face of the rebel-without-a-cause, whatever the campus and whatever the institution. These concerns may not be of particular concern to a majority of college students, many of which devote themselves to an unprofessional, arguably time-wasting enterprise of getting inside their professor's heads; but to a small minority of particularly outspoken -- and moreover, creative -- individuals, they are imperative; for it is these same creative people who feel they are responsible for seeing to it that given the opportunity, their fellows need not embark on useless endevor.

Of late top employers have said they look more carefully at 'B' students who took time out from their studies to hone their insight than they do 'A' students who gave every last energy to meet their educational institution's highest standards, whatever that meant. (and I caution, the meaning of such is again, getting inside the professors' heads). The question arises, why aren't the 'B' students 'A' students also? The answer lies with the extremists and their arbitrary tyranny. Cast down the extremists, and America's GPAs will rise.

The linchpin to the argument that extremists can be depended on to oppress certain types (the confli. In fact, much of the argument has its root in extremism: ESFp-INTj relations, for example, can be quite tame if there is mutual respect and consideration between the partners. (and that is indeed possible) However, when either of the partners is an extremist the relation invariably earns its "conflict" name.

ISTj-INTj relations are comparative, sure... but there is more to these relations than meets the eye. INTj and ISTj share functions of shadow archetype, which lends itself to projections of the worst nature. -Ti always feels threatened by +Ti just as +Ti is threatened by -Ti. In as much as INTj and ISTj would seek to defend their suggestive functions, -Ti is on guard against +Fi on behalf of -Fe, even as +Ti disdains -Fe for +Fi. Again, when there is mutual respect between the two these hostilities can be mitigated, but when either side feels the victory of its antithesis in imminent, the relationship will regress into negative projection as the ego uses whatever it feels it has at its disposal to fight off the aggressor. (real or imagined)

[UDP]

ISTj-INTj relations are comparative, sure... but there is more to these relations than meets the eye. INTj and ISTj share functions of shadow archetype, which lends itself to projections of the worst nature. -Ti always feels threatened by +Ti just as +Ti is threatened by -Ti. In as much as INTj and ISTj would seek to defend their suggestive functions, -Ti is on guard against +Fi on behalf of -Fe, even as +Ti disdains -Fe for +Fi. Again, when there is mutual respect between the two these hostilities can be mitigated, but when either side feels the victory of its antithesis in imminent, the relationship will regress into negative projection as the ego uses whatever it feels it has at its disposal to fight off the aggressor. (real or imagined)

It doesn't matter how you analyze this tcau

You fucked up

You got suspended

You did something wrong

Just accept it. It's not socionics' fault, its your own

[JuJu]

People of all political stripes -- conservative, progressive, liberal, communitarian, traditionalists (the paleo-political types as defined in political science), . Finally the individualist revolutionary is free from the fanatical zealotry of the traditionalist stalwart; the liberal is free from the close-mindedness of the conservative fringe; the conservative is free to attest to their beliefs in the face of the liberal radical; and the traditionist who upholds time tested standards of activity is free to prove their academic metal in the face of the rebel-without-a-cause, whatever the campus and whatever the institution. These concerns may not be of particular concern to a majority of college students, many of which devote themselves to an unprofessional, arguably time-wasting enterprise of getting inside their professor's heads; but to a small minority of particularly outspoken -- and moreover, creative -- individuals, they are imperative; for it is these same creative people who feel they are responsible for seeing to it that given the opportunity, their fellows need not embark on useless endevor.

Of late top employers have said they look more carefully at 'B' students who took time out from their studies to hone their insight than they do 'A' students who gave every last energy to meet their educational institution's highest standards, whatever that meant. (and I caution, the meaning of such is again, getting inside the professors' heads). The question arises, why aren't the 'B' students 'A' students also? The answer lies with the extremists and their arbitrary tyranny. Cast down the extremists, and America's GPAs will rise.

Sounds like you might like Wesleyan...

Seriously though, this does seem overly reactionary on Miami U's part. It sounds like this prof tried to paint you as a potential Virginia Tech... Good thing is though, if you want to continue on at Miami U., they only suspended and didn't expel you... Also, as I'm sure you know, there are plenty of universities that might be a better social fit (from an administrative stand-point, at the very least...) If you want to stay in Ohio, Oberlin might be one to check out, or even Earlham College.

Also, in response to what you wrote about tyranny and extremist practices, I'll just say that your view is idealistic, and noble in that way--that said, I believe you'll find (if you haven't already) that there's a critical mass of dicks and fools at most places, including at many companies and universities, even the "good" ones. Thus personal opinion, favoritism, (including: colleagues who 'got each otha's backs' to an unreasonable degree,) and other unjust mindsets/practices influence things that ideally, they shouldn't... It's the way of the world.

I wish you luck, tcaud, sincerely... Small consolation: I've found that life will often throw this kind of stuff at someone at times when it's most helpful for that person to evolve.

[shakealittle]

Look to your own PoLR.

EXACTLY.

If you want an ISTj to reconisder you:
1. Recognise that we value hard work and determination --> go out of your way to provide EVIDENCE that you embody those qualities AND be consistent

2. Respect their authority/ have some humility --> be honest about your faults and demonstrate ways in which you try to overcome them (refer to 1)

Adhere to both these points and they'll put you in the most favourable position given the circumstance.

[Creepy-bg]

I think you're too black and white with this evil thing Tcaud. I mean there's nothing wrong with seeing the world like that, except that really it's all shades of grey. your teacher wasn't inentionally being Evil... she just has a different way of doing things.

[tcaudilllg]

EXACTLY.

If you want an ISTj to reconisder you:
1. Recognise that we value hard work and determination --> go out of your way to provide EVIDENCE that you embody those qualities AND be consistent

You'd better offer a reason to expect it then. And, you'd have better already made every effort to make the experience as easy as possible -- that is, if it's difficult at all, then it had better be because no one could think of a way to make it easier. INTjs will accept nothing less. We -- but such should only be demanded when there is no other way. Anything less is utter arrogance. (Machintruc calls ISTjs narrowminded for a reason, you know!)

I know that not all ISTjs really prize unnecessary effort -- not all ISTjs are alike.

2. Respect their authority/ have some humility --> be honest about your faults and demonstrate ways in which you try to overcome them (refer to 1)

Adhere to both these points and they'll put you in the most favourable position given the circumstance.

It's been said before: INTj respect is earned, never acquiesced. The burden for my respect is respect for my logical sensibility.

[Creepy-bg]

You'd better offer a reason to expect it then. And, you'd have better already made every effort to make the experience as easy as possible -- that is, if it's difficult at all, then it had better be because no one could think of a way to make it easier. INTjs will accept nothing less. We -- but such should only be demanded when there is no other way. Anything less is utter arrogance. (Machintruc calls ISTjs narrowminded for a reason, you know!)

I know that not all ISTjs really prize unnecessary effort -- not all ISTjs are alike.



It's been said before: INTj respect is earned, never acquiesced. The burden for my respect is respect for my logical sensibility.

instead of always focusing on what you can't do and why you can't act different you should explore what where you CAN bend.

[shakealittle]

You'd better offer a reason to expect it then. And, you'd have better already made every effort to make the experience as easy as possible -- that is, if it's difficult at all, then it had better be because no one could think of a way to make it easier. INTjs will accept nothing less. We -- but such should only be demanded when there is no other way. Anything less is utter arrogance. (Machintruc calls ISTjs narrowminded for a reason, you know!)

What were you saying about arrogance?

I know that not all ISTjs really prize unnecessary effort -- not all ISTjs are alike.

It's been said before: INTj respect is earned, never acquiesced. The burden for my respect is respect for my logical sensibility.

Your response is a good example of why you're in this predicament.

You're so intent on justifying your stance that you lose all focus on a practical solution to your problems and when offered one, the same situation arises again.

[istpunk]

gay sex

[mikemex]

@tcaudilllg:

Once my father, a LII like you, gave me a book of Lin Yutang. I don't remember the title of the book, but it was a brilliant exposition of humility. He said, among other things, that as impressive as intelligence may be, it doesn't necessarily make you a better person. He preferred a reasonable person over a rational one.

I've read a lot of your posts and I have no doubt that you're quite intelligent. But maybe you're overestimating your own intelligence and assuming that you can judge everything and everyone and always be right about it. From time to time think that you might be wrong, no matter if you understand you error or not. And that the mistakes we don't understand are the ones which affect us the most.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Yes but you see they think they have to educate us INTjs in all of these other ways. I'm not sure if this is hypocritical or not, because I'm sure non-INTjs look at -Ti/-Te roots of scientific analysis as something kind of magical or even arbitrary....

As for what happens next, my first priority is wrapping up the rest of my classes. I've got three papers to finish by the end of the week. I've got a disciplinary board hearing (a kind of jury trial) on Saturday, during which well, what more can I do but state my case? I'm not the type to take the offense, but it's my instinct to retaliate if treated unfairly. (does calling someone arrogant amount to aggressive retaliation?) The real problem lies with the institution, which admittedly is one of the more conservative public institutes in the country. On the other hand, just the blemish of being suspended on a charge carries with it problems. I've been thinking that given my superb understanding of U.S. History, I can just CLEP my way through that class and avoid having to retake it. In the meantime though, I need to get that class dropped somehow or another. I've got an 'A' in World History, so that's definitely in my favor.

I sincerely hope that the instructor in question talks as much at the hearing as possible. Every single word she says is a vote in my favor.

I am disadvantaged in that I don't have the resources to hire a lawyer who could seriously tear her up, though.

In the end, the real loser is the idea of institutional equity in academia. If I get suspended for this, then it's pretty well proven that there is a kind of selection process going on to "vet" up-and-coming leaders in the sciences. This will do harm to the idea that anyone with the will to learn can accomplish their dreams in the eyes of many progressives.

I wonder if Ohio progressives should all just pack up and head back to Antioch.

For the record, I have decided on trying out a tactic of activating the transcendent function to deliberate and then to deactivate it when actually phrasing the assertion. Using the transcendent function heightens your instincts and makes you seem more... how to say, jerky. (if you've ever took on a stance where you were just totally determined and ready to respond to anything that came at you, that's the transcendent function at work: it mobilizes your entire subconscious against whatever threatens you. To put it in perspective, without the transcendent function I'm a klutz; with it, I'm much more focused and can usually catch anything thrown at me without even thinking about it, taking up just the right position to intercept it). This seems to me disingenuous, nor do I think it'll go unrecognized for long, but we'll see what happens....

I thought about various things I could say, but bottom line is your clever guy..if it don't work out..as one door closes another door opens (things such as the occasionial academia never stopped Einstein, eg.) hey, if you want my indepth advice (if you think it may be of benefit) drop me a pm

@tcaudilllg:

Once my father, a LII like you, gave me a book of Lin Yutang. I don't remember the title of the book, but it was a brilliant exposition of humility. He said, among other things, that as impressive as intelligence may be, it doesn't necessarily make you a better person. He preferred a reasonable person over a rational one.

I've read a lot of your posts and I have no doubt that you're quite intelligent. But maybe you're overestimating your own intelligence and assuming that you can judge everything and everyone and always be right about it. From time to time think that you might be wrong, no matter if you understand you error or not. And that the mistakes we don't understand are the ones which affect us the most.

This sounds reasonable. Perhaps worth a read? (have you read it already?)

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Here's what I would do:

Just quit and just take some time off life for awhile. Part of you wants to be expelled and to fight and be angry with the world. For some reason you are clearly self-sabotaging yourself here. Deep down you want to see what happens if you 'didn't have to go at all.'

You remind me of myself so much kinda, though you really have no choice here but to let the bitch have her way.

And hey if you do end up working at Wal-Mart I wouldn't mind. Some of the Wal-mart guys there can be surprisingly hot, just make sure you try to not smell too white trash.

I really think people are giving you bad advice. I am quite afraid you actually *are* going to blow up and actually hurt yourself or others here. Beat up a pillow, watch some good porn, throw shit around to get your anger out. This is obviously a pattern with you here.

You need to unleash your rage. You don't need advice - even what I just said right there, ignore that. All you were doing was really expressing yourself and seeing if anybody could relate, and people gave you advice on the thread. I think they were being idiots there, but it's just easy to do to somebody in a vulnerable emotional position.

Quite simply man, college is pretty easy even if you're not all that smart. If you are getting Cs you just don't want it badly enough that's all it is. It's just not important to you, and you need to be doing something that is important to you- it's a basic human need that you're not getting. I just think you need to find somebody that can value you more than anything else. It sounds like you don't have many real life friends though, not to feel sorry or condescend to you or anything.

I know nobody's goal in life is to get As on tests (and if it is, they are really pathetic) sooo what do you really want at the end of the tunnel? Honestly? I think you don't want to tell other people because it's far from socially acceptable- but you still need to do it if it's going to make you happy. Social status is stupid and not worth the trouble for me.

Just keep on staying connected with people but there's nothing wrong with taking a hiatus. If you are anything like me, you need somebody to kinda come right there and rescue you for a bit, you need a breather so you can get back on the horse and just let all this go.

[JuJu]

I got a bad grade on a test (thanks to the total Ne incompetence of my instructor), and after saying a few unkind words to her face ("I can't believe you failed me on this. I think I'm going to drop the class after this (a feasible option because only two exams are graded in the class, and a failing grade in one). Idiot.") she has decided to recommend my suspension from Miami University. I was quite angry about the grade -- considerable levels of bias were leveled in the critique of my test.

It may have been over the top to insult her, but hey, we're all adults... aren't we?

Stature? Well the first thing she can do is get off her high horse. I'm taking this very seriously though: if I get expelled from Miami, that'll go on my record and it may prove difficult to re-enroll anywhere. And, a suspension effectively merits expulsion because I've already made a loan for $2250 that is due six months after I "leave" college. Which means, I can't just back down. Even if I am suspended/expelled, I've got to do something to change their minds somehow....

Anyway, what to do about ISTj bitch?

I transferred from my first college for a very similar reason. It was a tiny college, (Bard College, if anyone wants to know or gives a damn,) and this administrator, also an ISTj, developed a thorough disliking of me and proposed my expulsion... I thought the same as you, i.e "hey, we're all adults." Fact of the matter is, adults can sometimes behave like idiotic brats, especially when angry...

Frankly, a lot of humanities professors, in my experience, aren't very mature... Oftentimes while pursuing their phDs, they live in academic bubbles--sometimes well into their thirties, while most other ppl are developing otherwise... After they become employed, they sometimes have a very limited and strange relationship w/the non-university world... This has been my experience anyway, as a post-grad in the humanities.

What it sounds like, in your case, is you've insulted this prof's competence--in my experience, that makes them especially vindictive... She may have deserved it, and that's maybe why it stung her so badly, (which it clearly did.) If your goal is to prevent expulsion, which I imagine it is, you should plan your moves based on that goal. E.g., if you believe that an apology will solve the situation and prevent you from being expelled, do it... If dropping the course will solve it, do it. If not, I believe that it would be best, if possible, to bring this up in an administrative capacity before she does, so that she's on the defensive from the start... After this, just act very reasonably, civally--especially during any administrative meetings--essentially take the high road... Her behavior will suffer by comparison and I doubt you'll be expelled.

In my case, I transferred to Northwestern U, where I was treated like an actual person, to my delight... Miami U (of Ohio, right?) is public--it's often much more difficult to be expelled from a public institution than a private institution... You've got that going for you.

Good luck dude, seriously.

[Angel von Himmel]

Witness such gems as "the Lusitania sinking DID NOT contribute to U.S. suspicions of hostile intent by Germany" and "Darwin's theory of Natural Selection DOES NOT imply survival of the fittest". To INTjs... this stuff is trivial. That's the point though: I'm being discriminated against on basis of both my creativity -- which the instructor fears -- and my beliefs.

Hmmmm ... I would agree that those questions are very trivial.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Most of the stuff I learned at school and uni seemed trivial to me. I like learning stuff, but I hate education. More often than not it's boring.

[tcaudilllg]

Most of the stuff I learned at school and uni seemed trivial to me. I like learning stuff, but I hate education. More often than not it's boring.

Yes but you see they think they have to educate us INTjs in all of these other ways. I'm not sure if this is hypocritical or not, because I'm sure non-INTjs look at -Ti/-Te roots of scientific analysis as something kind of magical or even arbitrary....

As for what happens next, my first priority is wrapping up the rest of my classes. I've got three papers to finish by the end of the week. I've got a disciplinary board hearing (a kind of jury trial) on Saturday, during which well, what more can I do but state my case? I'm not the type to take the offense, but it's my instinct to retaliate if treated unfairly. (does calling someone arrogant amount to aggressive retaliation?) The real problem lies with the institution, which admittedly is one of the more conservative public institutes in the country. On the other hand, just the blemish of being suspended on a charge carries with it problems. I've been thinking that given my superb understanding of U.S. History, I can just CLEP my way through that class and avoid having to retake it. In the meantime though, I need to get that class dropped somehow or another. I've got an 'A' in World History, so that's definitely in my favor.

I sincerely hope that the instructor in question talks as much at the hearing as possible. Every single word she says is a vote in my favor.

I am disadvantaged in that I don't have the resources to hire a lawyer who could seriously tear her up, though.

In the end, the real loser is the idea of institutional equity in academia. If I get suspended for this, then it's pretty well proven that there is a kind of selection process going on to "vet" up-and-coming leaders in the sciences. This will do harm to the idea that anyone with the will to learn can accomplish their dreams in the eyes of many progressives.

I wonder if Ohio progressives should all just pack up and head back to Antioch.

For the record, I have decided on trying out a tactic of activating the transcendent function to deliberate and then to deactivate it when actually phrasing the assertion. Using the transcendent function heightens your instincts and makes you seem more... how to say, jerky. (if you've ever took on a stance where you were just totally determined and ready to respond to anything that came at you, that's the transcendent function at work: it mobilizes your entire subconscious against whatever threatens you. To put it in perspective, without the transcendent function I'm a klutz; with it, I'm much more focused and can usually catch anything thrown at me without even thinking about it, taking up just the right position to intercept it). This seems to me disingenuous, nor do I think it'll go unrecognized for long, but we'll see what happens....