How do you know I'm invisible?
I wasn't on.
ProChoice
ProLife
indifferent
How do you know I'm invisible?
I wasn't on.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
I just had a gut feeling ms. cancer. Just a feeling you were invisible. So I followed suit. Another thing to add to your list.
And then alliecliche came back and she was on for 11 minutes, but she just came on?
D-SEI9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
speaking of choices.
if there was to be a vote to take place for abortions to be either banned or not banned and everybody chose to have them banned and voted for that option, then there would have been a choice and that would have been it.
We have the freedom to choose and if I had to choose between those two options I'd choose to ban it and that would be my choice. But if everyone voted for them to not be banned then so be it. It would suck IMO and would be sad IMO but we have to go with what the majority wants cuz if we didn't there would be dictatorship, right?
...but actually it's the supreme court that has choices when it comes to this...not us.
Are you okay?Originally Posted by Kamangir
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
The merit is that a woman has control over her body. That she doesn't have to have a baby if she doesn't want one. That's the only merit it needs to have.
I don't really understand this paragraph. Is this in regard to me? I don't disagree with abortion. I think it is a necessary procedure and needs to be available to women so women can have control over their own lives.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
"I'm not OK......." No I'm not very happy today.
What do you think.
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
The supreme court decides on these things because we can't vote to take away people's rights or limit people's freedoms. Our constitution guarantees us certain things even if most people don't want them.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
yeah.
there seems to be confusion over the right to life and the right to freedom tho.
You can't give everyone the right to life.
It's fucking impossible.
However, you can and should give everyone the right to freedom.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
Fetuses don't have constitutional rights.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
That breeds irresponsibility. Barring rape and other very extreme circumstances, a woman chose to have that baby at one time or another. Therefore, to give a woman that choice:
1. lowers the importance of life (depends on how much you value life though)
2. Breeds irresponsibility. Whether she is using abortion as a contraceptive or just had a "bad night", making abortion legal for these situations leads to point 1 and also promotes abortion as an "easy way out", thereby making abortion more prevalent and used in ways that some of you might not agree with.
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
Actually, it would grant an embryo more rights than a born human being. No born human being would ever be granted the right to live off my blood supply and be connected to my body against my wishes for nine months.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
neither did adults until we made it that way.
Again, no. A choice is defined as something made by the chooser. If she decides to have sex and that's it, then that's the choice she made.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
hmmm.
but say for some strange reason there was a human being connected to you and living off of you for nine months...that would go against your rights but would that give anybody the right to kill that person? And isn't the right to live more important than the other rights?
That is purely disrespectful to life. Thank you very much.
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
If you believe that, then it stands to reason that you also believe that all healthy people should give up one kidney each by law to give to people waiting for kidneys, that all people who die in the right circumstances should be forced to give their organs to people who will die without them, that everyone should be forced to have their bone marrow tested and be available by law anyone compatible needs a bone marrow donation, etc. Their rights to live outweigh our rights to have two kidneys, or control our organs, right?
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
If one person's survival was meant my suffering, then yes.
I would. I would let them die.
But that's also different because a fetus is never alive in the first place.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
As a way of enforcing the ban of abortion if that ban existed?
There would be other ways to do that.
what?
I'm confused.
so if Bob infringes on Sally's rights then Sally has the right to infringe on Bob's rights?
AH! There's a difference between letting someone die and killing them.
For instance, I could have given a hobo a hamburger today and I didn't...if that hobo dies of starvation [aww poor hobo =(] did I kill him? No I didn't kill him. He died of natural causes.
I think this would apply equally to your income. Your children have a legal right to live off your income. Failing to feed your children is illegal. There is precedent.
On the other hand, we are not responsible for complete strangers - only for those we brought into the world in the first place.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
people need to smoke more pot around here
well if that was the standard and they were full aware of it and they did it anyway...then that's on them. sadly.
No, income is different. I couldn't be legally forced to give up a kidney even to my own daughter. I couldn't even be legally forced to donate blood to save her. My physical body parts belong to me.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Embryo transplant research.
yes.
it's a good idea.
really it is.
Yeah, that's true.
Let me clarify:
I am not willing to give up my rights for something that "lives" off of me like a parasite.
Pro Life:
It's replaceable.
Stop pretending you care.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
what do you say about Bob?
If you infringe on Bob's rights then does he have the right to infringe on your rights?
I respect Bob's rights. That is why I don't care if he gets an abortion.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
why do you keep talking about me?!?!
leave my rights alone!
Ur name is Bob?why do you keep talking about me?!?!
leave my rights alone!
sorta, it's Robert (but I felt like complaining)
and about what you said before...
letting someone die is different than killing them.
If Bob is infringing on Sally's rights, Sally has a right to make that stop, regardless of what happens to Bob as a result.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Sorry Robert.sorta, it's Robert (but I felt like complaining
Here, have your rights *hands Robert a copy of the Constitution*
Of course it is.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
REALLY?
ZOMG! If I accidentally step on a neighbor's lawn they can shoot me!
*scared face*
=(
No but if you latch onto them and live off their blood and organs, they can kill you to get you off them.REALLY?
ZOMG! If I accidentally step on a neighbor's lawn they can shoot me!
*scared face*
=(
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
On the other hand, living in the womb is a known and expected need of the fetus, whereas donating blood is not a common need for born children.
And I wouldn't be so sure that you couldn't be forced to donate blood to save your daughter, if someone bothered to sue you about it (and had a good case that there was no other way).
Granted, it's rare to not be able to handle a situation with money alone. Even in the case of the fetus, you can often pay a hospital to take care of it.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
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