"I've always been 30"

[Joy]

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How old have you "always been"?

[Creepy-bg]

13

[aestrivex]

3k²ß/7+φ(♣π/2)

[Joy]

wow, that's pretty old

[Creepy-Diana]

.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

30 is just a number. Literally
Like 28 or 22 or e=mcc (letters but numbers mm..think I'm on it!)

[implied]

Split. I've always been commended for my responsibility and self-direction. But I can very much act like a kid. I like to run and play and try silly things, and climb trees, and hide and jump on my trampoline and so on. So. . . a responsible, prepared, on-time little kid, which is exactly what I was as a kid too. I had a fear of being late or unprepared, and took every responsibility seriously, but I loved to run and jump and play and the normal kid kinds of things too.

yeah, i think i relate to this. i want to be an adult, think i am an adult, legally & somewhat mentally, but i don't want to be /too/ adult, either. i'm not entirely sure i'm even capable of it.


as for what numerical age i've "always been," not sure. my ESTj brother has always seemed /very/ adult to me, in the sense of being responsible like you've mentioned. but he was also rather anti-anyone-acting-like-a-child, too. i think being "too old" mentally is just as bad as being "too young." neither seem really like something i'd strive for.

[Blaze]

18.

but 40 is the new 30.

[Joy]

I'm looking forward to 30 to 50. To me it's always sounded like the best decades of one's life.

[Blaze]

I'm looking forward to 30 to 50. To me it's always sounded like the best decades of one's life.

the mid life re-evaluation or crisis is a bitch. once you get through it though it's probably the best time career wise and relationship wise.

[Ezra]

Why start these threads? What relevance do they have to standard and classical socionics personality typing styles? Stick them in Anything Goes if you must create them, but my advice is to scrap them completely. They're utterly pointless.

[FDG]

Obviously Joy always looks forward to her next stage in life hoping her completely messed up life will get better and her dream of being a multistage succeful woman will be magically accomplished. Lol.

[Ezra]

[Joy]

Why start these threads? What relevance do they have to standard and classical socionics personality typing styles? Stick them in Anything Goes if you must create them, but my advice is to scrap them completely. They're utterly pointless.

The idea was that it could be quadra related.

[Joy]

Obviously Joy always looks forward to her next stage in life hoping her completely messed up life will get better and her dream of being a multistage succeful woman will be magically accomplished. Lol.

I've always thought 30 to 50 would be the best time in my life. It's got nothing to do with successful or not successful. And I already consider myself successful.

[Ezra]

I've always thought 30 to 50 would be the best time in my life. It's got nothing to do with successful or not successful. And I already consider myself successful.

I highly doubt it.

Although, I've just had a thought that's come to me. Notice how the quadras seem almost based on one's age?

Alpha: we're young! We enjoy life! We don't want conflict!
Beta: we're getting older! Life's been tough! Grrr I'll fucking kick your head in and take over the world!
Gamma: I am world-weary, and I understand that force is good, but only when used strategically.
Delta: I am ancient. I understand the complexities of life. Everyone relax and just become passive.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

What I can't be today, I can be tomorrow.

So goes the lyric from a Paul Weller song.

[Joy]

I highly doubt it.

Doubt what?

Although, I've just had a thought that's come to me. Notice how the quadras seem almost based on one's age?

Alpha: we're young! We enjoy life! We don't want conflict!
Beta: we're getting older! Life's been tough! Grrr I'll fucking kick your head in and take over the world!
Gamma: I am world-weary, and I understand that force is good, but only when used strategically.
Delta: I am ancient. I understand the complexities of life. Everyone relax and just become passive.

Nah, it's more like the age one acts is based on their quadra. And (of course) that's not how I see Gamma at all.

[Slacker]

I am not and could never be ancient. Even when I'm in my 90s, I'll still act young. I forget how old I am sometimes. I'll have to put down my age and I'll immediately want to write "22" or something. And then I remember. Oh yeah, it isn't 1991.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Just thought I'd point this out:

We have:

Why start these threads? What relevance do they have to standard and classical socionics personality typing styles? Stick them in Anything Goes if you must create them, but my advice is to scrap them completely. They're utterly pointless.

And then we have:

Although, I've just had a thought that's come to me. Notice how the quadras seem almost based on one's age?

Alpha: we're young! We enjoy life! We don't want conflict!
Beta: we're getting older! Life's been tough! Grrr I'll fucking kick your head in and take over the world!
Gamma: I am world-weary, and I understand that force is good, but only when used strategically.
Delta: I am ancient. I understand the complexities of life. Everyone relax and just become passive.

And even more amusing to me again:

Nah, it's more like the age one acts is based on their quadra And (of course) that's not how I see Gamma at all.

Oh..Nor is out how I see delta

[Cuddly McFluffles]

If everyone was passive, who would we laugh at?

[Blaze]

I am not and could never be ancient. Even when I'm in my 90s, I'll still act young. I forget how old I am sometimes. I'll have to put down my age and I'll immediately want to write "22" or something. And then I remember. Oh yeah, it isn't 1991.

lol. yeah for sure. how the hell can somebody with Ne in their ego block be "ancient"?

[Joy]

I was wondering about how (or rather, how much) being infantile would affect this.

[FDG]

I highly doubt it.

Although, I've just had a thought that's come to me. Notice how the quadras seem almost based on one's age?

Alpha: we're young! We enjoy life! We don't want conflict!
Beta: we're getting older! Life's been tough! Grrr I'll fucking kick your head in and take over the world!
Gamma: I am world-weary, and I understand that force is good, but only when used strategically.
Delta: I am ancient. I understand the complexities of life. Everyone relax and just become passive.

Ahah. I'd totally be alpha by this token.

[detail]

It's really not as static as that. There are many aspects in which we have different levels of maturity of course and looking at only one of them as the whole or even calculating an average is pretty useless. It's also dependant on other internal as well as external factors such as experience, relationships, health, work, etc. Overall it's very intuitive as a concept and it surely can't be generalized to the point of putting an approximation of an age on it. It's not as if each age was directly proportionnal to an average level of maturity. If it was, the only age one would have always been would be his own age at the moment of answering the question. As for the possibility of discussing it, it's certainly there but it's better to leave your numbers, compass and calculator at home and talk about specific behaviors, worldviews or attitudes that are better thought out than others given a situation and one's individual needs, considering bigger picture implications of course. What good could such an oversimplification bring to socionics and more importantly to someone as an individual? Maybe to some it would give a sense of security or some quick self-confidence fix but would it really be worth it?

To conclude, i think it's great that we can have intuitions like that, for example that somehow sometimes we feel that maturity levels don't match between people, because it enables us to deepen our experience as spiritual and social beings, given that we provide enough time and effort to really dig inside ourselves and not build some form of eugenics-like system or simply categorizations that are too harsh. As mandatory as they are, categorizations can be pretty useless if they are misused.