I have discovered lately that the sort of person I believe Reuben to be, is not necessarily of the ISTP type. I am not sure what his type is, but I will try to find it in this thread. Any pics of him would be useful.
I have discovered lately that the sort of person I believe Reuben to be, is not necessarily of the ISTP type. I am not sure what his type is, but I will try to find it in this thread. Any pics of him would be useful.
fiona
Ruben McNew is INFj
If you disagree I'm afraid you are gay
definitely not ST
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Everyone should think that ENFp is clearly the most likely type for Reuben. Any other type is much less likely, and therefore it is a mistake to think that he is another type. If you don't agree with me, you are ... yes ... incompetent.
humor?
No, of course not. I am totally incompetent in that area. Doesn't everybody know that?Originally Posted by Joy
So why would disagreeing with you make someone else incompetent?
Because I said that we should think that Reuben is most likely an ENFp, and he is most likely and ENFp, and there is no other type that it is equally reasonable to think that he is.Originally Posted by Joy
Do you know how many times his type has been discussed on this forum and how much material there is on his type that has already been considered thoroughly before reaching that conclusion?Originally Posted by ifmd95
Delta NF is what he's cited as by most on this forum. If you look at his video he posted once, I think IEE is more likely than EII.
except that he, himself, goes back and forth between entp and enfp. (though admittedly has stayed as enfp longer most recently)Originally Posted by Phaedrus
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
You could be right, Dee.Originally Posted by dee
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I THINK I LOVE YOUOriginally Posted by discojoe
nice Se (+ Ti) assertion that lacks any functional concept of NeOriginally Posted by Phaedrus
NopeOriginally Posted by dee
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
No. It is a rather typical expression of a Te-based perspective.Originally Posted by Joy
Show me examples. (Something like this perhaps?)
(btw, if you wanted to find support for this theory, you could find ample support among the Beta ST's over at socionix. They'll tell you allllllllllllll about how the style of assertions you use are "Te".)Originally Posted by Phaedrus
Originally Posted by Phaedrus
You really think that's Te? "He fits into my personal system in this way, and therefore he is this way, and any reasonable person will see it"???? That sounds like Te to you?
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
That's not what I said. First you misinterpret my original words, then you rephrase them in your own words in order to satisfy your personal needs. I talked about estimations of likelihood and what is reasonable to think (indirectly implying that the empirical grounds for believing anything else are insufficient). What quadra and what type(s) do you associate that kind of thinking with?Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
There you have a typical example of an -related statement, Joy. Go to the wikisocion page again, and compare them. Do you see the differences between Herzy's statement and mine?Originally Posted by Herzy
Good, you agree with me. You're probably right, anyways.Originally Posted by dee
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I see the difference between creative Se and Se dominance.Originally Posted by Phaedrus
Of course, I could be wrong. You could be IEI or some other similar type. It doesn't really matter. I just wanted to point out how your assertion sounded extremely Se + Ti (with unvalued and probably weak Ne) to me.
And my point was that that is a misinterpretation of yours. It does not in fact sound extremely Se + Ti, and I had hoped that you would realize that if you looked at how the manifestations of those functions are explained and exemplified on the wikisocion or on Rick's site.Originally Posted by Joy
Almost none of my statements made on this forum is similar to Herzy's above in a way that is relevant to your functions hypothesis. Don't you notice, for example, our essential differences in relation to the Merry/Serious dichotomy? Don't you see our differences in perspective? Herzy is trying to exclude someone from the group, whereas very few of my statements are expressed from such a perspective but instead from my own perspective as an individual.
Why do you think that he's a ENFp?Originally Posted by Phaedrus
And to joy and others there is no real sign of Se + Ti here. He's basically saying "I'm right, you're wrong and that makes you stupid" and every single type probably thinks that about something.
Because I have analyzed his test results and his typical behaviours and attitudes as he describes them, I have analyzed his writing style, I have watched the videos of him where you can see him walk and talk, etc. Why don't you go through all that material for yourself? Most of it, and the discussions relating to it, are probably still available on this forum if you make a search on it.Originally Posted by electric
I was asking for you own interpretation of all the material that made you come up with the conclusion that he's a ENFp.Originally Posted by Phaedrus
What about his behaviour and attitude makes you think that he's a ENFp?
What about his writing style looks ENFp to you?
What about the videos of him make him seem ENFp?
I won't do that. It requires too much work. You see it, if you have a correct understanding of the types and bother to look at the material.Originally Posted by electric
kOriginally Posted by Phaedrus
(We obviously aren't going to reach an agreement, this was clear from the start. I'm not interested in debating with you.)
Then be silent ...Originally Posted by Joy
I'll post my opinions on things you say whenever I'd like. You may respond or not respond to me whenever you'd like. If you do respond, I may respond or not respond to you whenever I'd like. You may also post your opinions on things I say whenever you'd like, and I may respond or not respond to you whenever I'd like. You may respond or not respond to my response whenever you'd like. See how it works?
Not everybody interprets everything the same way. That's why I asked you for your reasoning behind typing him a ENFp. But if you can't be bothered to make a case that's fine.Originally Posted by Phaedrus
Originally Posted by Joy
Don't mind me.
INTp
sx/sp
Flawless.Originally Posted by Joy
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
It's about time.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
That should go on the LIE page at wikisocion...Originally Posted by Expat
It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.
I don't know what's type related and what's me just being a dork though.