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    Now, this topic is valid IFF you believe I'm an ENTj.

    I think one of the core topics of Se-Ni interaction is that the Se type has the skill to execute tasks, and the Ni types has the ability to know what the solution is (but is uncertain on how to exactly implement). I've seen this behavior often in the ISTjs and ISFjs in my class, they will ask me "What do I have to do here?", and when I point the direction they speed to the end of the task with ease. Many times I'm baffled by them asking because I feel like it was something trivial to know. Examples are usually to be found in homework and exams, especially in the former there is usually a procession of them asking how to solve issues.

    The funny thing is that many times I'm not really sure of what I am telling them. I don't know the solution either, and it is very strange that people trust me this way since I feel like in many instances I'm less competent than them, but I can "say the right words" or something like this. I think smilingeyes described his ENTj phase in a similar way, that is feeling like people were accepting his guidance without any motivation from their side, and without any skill or knowledge from his.
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    I can relate to this inversely. It can really help me if someone can provide motivation. My most crippling problem is my inability to act (for rather long periods of time).

    I don't know if I provide any direction for anyone though. I don't know what I provide to others.

    If you are ENTj, it would make sense that you help others with as it's your creative function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    I can relate to this inversely. It can really help me if someone can provide motivation. My most crippling problem is my inability to act (for rather long periods of time).

    I don't know if I provide any direction for anyone though. I don't know what I provide to others.

    If you are ENTj, it would make sense that you help others with as it's your creative function.
    I see my INFp friend doing it too, even though he has some difficulty when there's the Te involved in giving the direction. For example he's very good at explaining historical facts in a "directed" way when somebody just knows all the events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Ni types has the ability to know what the solution is (but is uncertain on how to exactly implement).
    That's typical of me. And the discrepancy between the theoretical and the practical level is very obvious in my case.

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    This just sounds like tactics vs. strategists to me.

    And I wouldn't use homework for examples of anything related to Socionics because any type can be good or bad at any type of homework. It has more to do with "book smarts" than type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    This just sounds like tactics vs. strategists to me.

    And I wouldn't use homework for examples of anything related to Socionics because any type can be good or bad at any type of homework. It has more to do with "book smarts" than type.
    LoL, I was waiting for your comeback. No, I clearly said that both of us are good at different parts of homework. That's what types are about - strenghts in different areas. Now keep on denying this too.
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    I'm not going to debate this homework thing with you. It's irrelevant. The point is:

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I think one of the core topics of Se-Ni interaction is that the Se type has the skill to execute tasks, and the Ni types has the ability to know what the solution is (but is uncertain on how to exactly implement).
    This just sounds like tactics vs. strategists to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I'm not going to debate this homework thing with you. It's irrelevant. The point is:

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I think one of the core topics of Se-Ni interaction is that the Se type has the skill to execute tasks, and the Ni types has the ability to know what the solution is (but is uncertain on how to exactly implement).
    This just sounds like tactics vs. strategists to me.
    Sounds like it's easily interpretable and vague and therefore useless to try to interpret.
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    I forgot to add that SLEs have posited me the same kind of requests, which made me ditch the consideration of its relation to the tactics vs strategy dichotomy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I'm not going to debate this homework thing with you. It's irrelevant. The point is:

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I think one of the core topics of Se-Ni interaction is that the Se type has the skill to execute tasks, and the Ni types has the ability to know what the solution is (but is uncertain on how to exactly implement).
    This just sounds like tactics vs. strategists to me.
    Sounds like it's easily interpretable and vague and therefore useless to try to interpret.
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