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    Hey everyone, here are some stereotypical alpha types!! Discuss!! Enjoy!!


    Male ISFP



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    Male ESFJ



    Female ESFJ



    Male ENTP



    Female ENTP



    Male INTJ



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    Quote Originally Posted by guy123 View Post
    Male ISFP: Introverted Ethical, sounds rather EII. "Down to earth" means to him letting things go and having a good work ethics.

    Female ISFP: likely SEI, yeah.

    Male ESFJ: very likely ESE.

    Female ESFJ: Delta ST. Cold and stiff, doesn't move her eyebrows even when she laughs. Talks detached about people and helping. "I don't like to be the loud one but I always end-up being the one that's taking charge and getting it done."

    Male ENTP: certainly LIE.

    Female ENTP: perhaps ESI, not sure (note that she learns mainly from people).

    Male INTJ: ILE.

    Female INTJ: maybe ILI, not very sure.
    What system is this? Sounds even less close to Socionics than MBTI. ENTP - the Strategist, WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by guy123 View Post
    Male ISFP: Introverted Ethical, sounds rather EII. "Down to earth" means to him letting things go and having a good work ethics.

    Female ISFP: likely SEI, yeah.

    Male ESFJ: very likely ESE.

    Female ESFJ: Delta ST. Cold and stiff, doesn't move her eyebrows even when she laughs. Talks detached about people and helping. "I don't like to be the loud one but I always end-up being the one that's taking charge and getting it done."

    Male ENTP: certainly LIE.

    Female ENTP: perhaps ESI, not sure (note that she learns mainly from people).

    Male INTJ: ILE.

    Female INTJ: maybe ILI, not very sure.
    What system is this? Sounds even less close to Socionics than MBTI. ENTP - the Strategist, WTF?
    Yeah, I agree with the male ESFj. I watched like 30 seconds of the female 'INTj' and suspected ILI too. She might be an ethical type too. I'm not sure these videos are accurate.

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    Male ISFP: I guess ISFp doesn't seem wrong, but his energy is unlike any other ISFp I've seen. Can't really qualify that with anything.
    Female ISFP: I'm getting more of an ENFp impression from her.
    Male ESFJ: ESXj most likely. Don't see any big reason to doubt ESFj.
    Female ESFJ: Reminds me of a teacher I had who I had typed as Ne-ENFp, could be wrong though.
    Male ENTP: His haircut makes me frown. Ne/Si extrovert, not ESFj.
    Female ENTP: ESTp maybe?
    Male INTJ: INTj. Next.
    Female INTJ: Ne-INTj. Next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Dew View Post
    I'm not sure these videos are accurate.
    Hmm they were not supposed to, read woofwoofl's post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Male ENTP: His haircut makes me frown. Ne/Si extrovert, not ESFj.
    LOL! I could see him LSE, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Male INTJ: INTj. Next.
    Oh, no... Some things to consider:

    - LIIs don't get too personal with people, it doesn't even make much sense to them. The guy talks to people, "goes to their heart", tries to help them, solve their problems, boasts he's not shy to talk about very personal things of people.
    - Ne-Base: always concerned with the harmful potential of beliefs and misinformation. Compelled to tell others the truth and too opinionated/pushy. Always tries to anticipate how things (incl. his life) will turn out. Very diffuse and broad area of interests. Makes comparisons - eg software engineering with human problems - learns something in a field and tries to apply it in a totally unrelated one. Spaced-out.
    - Looks for inspiration outside, studying other people, etc. Annoys people around, trying to change things. "I will try to change it to myself, my family and everybody around me. Sometimes I can annoy people because they think that I'm... well sometimes I guess I can be offensive or that I have a superior knowledge they don't have and rather than maybe be more gracious, it comes across as harsh because I believe so strong in what I do".
    - Had different kind of jobs, apparently went from base jobs to do software developing. Seems to have had a very random course of life - not a natural evolution from bottom to top in the same area, but rather from something to something else (more interesting and attractive).
    - Likes to make order because he can't focus and gets distracted. "Feels better" and "thinks clearer" when things are neat around him. I think LIIs make order because it's the obvious thing to do, though they don't get distracted by things unrelated to their purpose.
    - Ne Irrational again: "I like to expose lies and tell the truth and I think it's absolutely necessary ... I like to identify compromise before it turns into something that destroys people's lives".
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    Quote Originally Posted by guy123 View Post
    Hey everyone, here are some stereotypical alpha types!! Discuss!! Enjoy!!
    And please stop going so headlong. Alpha is a group of types in Socionics, an ENTP is not "stereotypical Alpha" if it doesn't coincide with Socionics ILE or doesn't express Alpha values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    What system is this? Sounds even less close to Socionics than MBTI. ENTP - the Strategist, WTF?
    It's Jon Niednagel's Brain Types, and it's based around things like coarse motor skill, fine motor skill, things like that - he's the guy who went with ****** not being MBTI ENFJ, and his equivalent (FCIR) to MBTI's ENTP is supposedly, by far, the most common type, with BEIL, which somewhat translates to ISTJ somehow, being quite rare...

    I haven't read a ton into it, though from what I've seen of it so far, it would make sense to see them as entirely separate systems...
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    It's Jon Niednagel's Brain Types, and it's based around things like coarse motor skill, fine motor skill, things like that - he's the guy who went with ****** not being MBTI ENFJ, and his equivalent (FCIR) to MBTI's ENTP is supposedly, by far, the most common type, with BEIL, which somewhat translates to ISTJ somehow, being quite rare..
    Oh yeah, I remember that, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    What system is this? Sounds even less close to Socionics than MBTI. ENTP - the Strategist, WTF?
    It's Jon Niednagel's Brain Types, and it's based around things like coarse motor skill, fine motor skill, things like that - he's the guy who went with ****** not being MBTI ENFJ, and his equivalent (FCIR) to MBTI's ENTP is supposedly, by far, the most common type, with BEIL, which somewhat translates to ISTJ somehow, being quite rare...

    I haven't read a ton into it, though from what I've seen of it so far, it would make sense to see them as entirely separate systems...
    I like that Dr. J is INFP in Neidnagel's system.



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    Male ESFJ- valuing Ethical something, probably not EIE (too dull). ESI? I also think he might be an ENFJ with too much Se, given his approach to sales.
    Female ESFJ- EIE-EII, I'd say. / valuing, weak-ish . Definitely ESFJ (very nice ESTJ is possible, but Si-aux is clear).
    Male INTJ- Bizarre LII with too much HA for my liking.
    Female INTJ- xSI-ish. I think ESI-SEI, maybe. And possibly ISTJ.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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