Why should we have known that?Originally Posted by jughead
Also, an artist might conceivably have CHOSEN to sing said song BECAUSE she identified with it. I am drawn to the soul in the writing of other ILIs.
Why should we have known that?
Also, an artist might conceivably have CHOSEN to sing said song BECAUSE she identified with it. I am drawn to the soul in the writing of other ILIs.
Wow, that explains a lot, it is all a big factory. Kudos for the business.
SLE
Look, this proves I'm INFp. I (sort of) like(d) these two songs. Actually, I like Pink even less now. Most of the people who like her in real life are people I dislike. The only Se-ESTp I (really) like is Courtney Love. Maybe Courtney's actually a Harmonizing SLE-Se (SLE-IEI), while I'm a Dominant IEI-Fe (IEI-EIE).
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I don't really like most of her lyrics... but this --
MY VIETNAM
Daddy was a soldier he taught me about freedom
Peace and all the great things that we take
advantage of
Once I fed the homeless, I'll never forget
The look upon their faces as I treated them with
respect
And
This is my Vietnam
I'm at war
Life keeps on dropping bombs
And I keep score
Momma was a lunatic, yes, she liked to push my buttons
She said I wasn't good enough, but I guess I wasn't trying
Never liked school that much; they tried to teach
me better
But I just wasn't hearing it because I thought I
was already pretty clever
And
This is my Vietnam
I'm at war
Life keeps on dropping bombs
And I keep score
This is my Vietnam
I'm at war
They keep on dropping bombs
And I keep score
What do you expect from me?
What am I not giving you?
What could I do for you to make me OK in your
eyes?
This is my Vietnam
I'm at war
They keep on dropping bombs
And I keep score
This is my Vietnam
I'm at war
Life keeps on dropping bombs
And I keep score
This is my Vietnam
This is my Vietnam
this is my Vietnam
This is my Vietnam
This is my Vietnam
I'm at war
Life keeps on dropping bombs
and we keep score
this is my Vietnam
I'm at war
they keep on dropping bombs
and you better believe I'm keeping score
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Pink [Alecia Beth Moore]
Pink: Se-ESTp (Dominant subtype) [Fe-ESTp] (ESTp-EXFj]
Robert Christgau:
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=Pink
Missundaztood [Arista, 2001]
Teen idols have matured at their peril since Del Shannon told us the name he was born with, and between the Internet gossip roast and Carson Daly's Dick Clark act, the current crop will have it even tougher. Which makes this meeting of L.A. Reid's double-platinum Philadelphia white girl and justly forgotten 4 Non Blondes emoter Linda Perry even more of a feat. These are pop songs in the sense that they deliver their payloads in 90 seconds. But they're also confessional, dark, downtempo--and, OK, a little gauche sometimes, which just makes them seem realer. Despite Pink's audacious claim that she's not as pretty as "damn Britney Spears," celebrity anxiety takes a backseat to a credible personal pain rooted in credible family travails, a pain held at bay by expression. Artistically, it's a next step for a genre I never thought would take one. I wish I believed Justin Timberlake's solo debut will sound half as honest, frustrated, and fulfilled. A
LSE
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
like the most obvious SLE out there
AFter watching her biography on E! I had been under the impression that she's SLE. If i had to guess subtype, I'm leaning towards Se-SLE.
Regardless of her type, I do enjoy her music...
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Poster child for Se.
And Sx 8w7
estp
estp
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
I don't really see her name on Maritsa's list.
pink
Estp
too much so . Probably Sx E 8. And definitely ugly and not very gifted.
Ok, subjective take on her, I don´t like her, I´m striving ...
Looks gayly pinkish - SLE.
ESTj
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You're IEI, then.
why...?
why...?
Several reason. First reason is that yes, she does look physically, facially corse and rather serious and intimidating just like all LSE and especially Arnold (this applies to woman too); second, she's an emotivist type. Her weak Fi is displayed here in how she isn't capable of expressing HER own emotions in relational dynamics
The only problems I've ever had with being honest is telling people how I feel about them or saying how I feel about other people.
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...DZyMxI3FWix.99
Indecisiveness, impulsiveness, benchmark of LSE especially with regards to whether she wants to keep her man or dump him.
In here: she explains the dynamics of interaction between herself and others she meets, it speaks of observation of actions.
People are always so surprised when they meet me. Firstly, that I'm 'so tiny', and secondly that I'm 'so sweet'. They seem surprised that they're not scared of me.
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...DZyMxI3FWix.99
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
When I'm dead I want a plasma TV in my coffin in order to watch Maritsa episodes. God damn, I'm going to even watch reruns having so great amount of free time on my hands.
to me she's as SLE as they get
SLE
any guesses to her subtype?
SLE
I love this performance. Her humor is so hawt to me. Additionally, I really like how she talked about the song in this interview.
She makes me feel like dissing on men. I want to be just as irreverent and offensive.
Also at 2:20, she makes me think of people poking my Role Si. I hate conversations about Si. SHUT UP AND DIET without talking about it.Ok? thanks
HER VOICE! She sings very well, her range is amazing, she has awesome lows, and I think she sings without overdoing it like Christina Aguilera, Beyonce -- at times. She puts thought into her music and she is honest and she does risky/physical things that allure me. I also love that she has opinions and doesn't care about the negative consequences of verbalizing them. I sort of suppress my feelings, at times, to avoid later regretting it.
I think she is my SLE dream. <3
She's an SEE, buddy.
I love this performance. Her humor is so hawt to me. Additionally, I really like how she talked about the song in this interview.
She makes me feel like dissing on men. I want to be just as irreverent and offensive.
Also at 2:20, she makes me think of people poking my Role Si. I hate conversations about Si. SHUT UP AND DIET without talking about it.
HER VOICE! She sings very well, her range is amazing, she has awesome lows, and I think she sings without overdoing it like Christina Aguilera, Beyonce -- at times. She puts thought into her music and she is honest and she does risky/physical things that allure me. I also love that she has opinions and doesn't care about the negative consequences of verbalizing them. I sort of suppress my feelings, at times, to avoid later regretting it.
I think she is my SLE dream. <3
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
You wish. However, this may be further evidence that I am ILI-Ni. I need to brush up on Gamma values and feel the resonance shake me like you shake a Shake Weight.
Easy to mistake for beta with sx/so and 8 energy, but the Fi is undoubtedly there from what I've seen in some songs and interviews. She's an ethical type and her husband is a logical type.
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
Se-SLE or Se-SEE IMO.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
base and
When
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MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
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Life is a joke but do you have a life?
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Perfect example: Donald Trump, which explains the whole SLE vs SEE debaucle in the Trump thread IMO.
When
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
I disagree. I don't know much about her husband but I thought he was EII. Her songs are about poor Fi. She says in interviews that she goes off of feeling. I think she goes off of
Beta ST or smd! ...Actually, suck my dick either way.
He's LSI.I disagree. I don't know much about her husband but I thought he was EII. Her songs are about poor Fi. She says in interviews that she goes off of feeling. I think she goes off of
She only talks and sings about feelings and seems driven by them in everything. She cares deeply about personal authenticity and while her relationships are volatile she tries hard to maintain them. Her relationship with her husband had some downs and even though an SLE would cognitively be closer to him (EII is ridiculous for him he doesn't look or act like one, he is definitely Se creative and most likely LSI > ESI), her Fi has helped her keep the relationship. If an SLE went through the same rockiness they would just leave and wouldn't bother trying to go through that mess because it requires Fi.
I see her regularly typed as ESFP in MBTI as well.
Sorry to kill your boner.
Her songs contain 8/reactive triad emotionality which is easy to mistake for SLE or other things.
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
SEE-Se 4w3 sx/so.
The sx 4 can appear 8ish, but she seems more 4 to me.
cp6w7-3w2-8w7 sx/so ILE--D
ESI probably
If not then SEE.
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Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Alecia Beth Moore - Pink - INFJ - Dostoyevsky
Alecia Beth Moore - Pink - INFJ - Dostoyevsky
SLE
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