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I can't get much from these, but my guess would be an IJ of some kind.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Weird. I've always thought of him as being ESFp. Maybe ESTp. He's a very friendly guy who's really easy to talk to, and he comes off as being sort of scattered and casual in an EP way. He's a sociopath though, so it may be hard to type him.
He steals peoples lunches too? Oh no wait...he raped a woman. The two are so closely related and all.....Originally Posted by Joy
heh
He also tried to kill my sister. He was released of those charges though, presumably for offering police his dealers. What happened to that woman could have been avoided.
omg!
Looks ISTj to me
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I have the same impression however he may be also an ISTp.Originally Posted by FDG
INFp(INTp)
"I like persons better than principles, and I like persons with no principles better than anything else in the world"
My sister was engaged to him.
To describe his personality, he was extremely friendly, talkative, charismatic, etc. He would approach anyone anywhere and strike up a conversation, and most people responded favorably to him. He talked sort of quickly and said humorous, somewhat random things. His style of conversation was very much like Rocky (the boxer), a clear ESFp. He came off really EP in energy expenditure, too.
Well, I was relying only on a picture. Looks like I've been totally mistaken.Originally Posted by Joy
INFp(INTp)
"I like persons better than principles, and I like persons with no principles better than anything else in the world"
No, I agree. VI wise he looks IxTx.
ISTp
The first one here I`ve spotted
Look at his mouth...
Note that mentally sick ISTp`s are very often ANTISOCIAL.
Also, he acted like hypomanic (JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SICK "SP", NOT "EP")
http://www.ptypes.com/hypomanic.html
http://www.ptypes.com/antisocialpd.html
Originally Posted by Hashish
I refuse to believe that being a psycho rapist is related to a specific type.
It is.
http://www.ptypes.com/correspondence.html
Originally Posted by Joy
The internet never lies!
And yes, sick ISTp`s are very often psycho rapists.
On ptypes.com you have lots of references to some serious sources.
But before you belive, you must understand.
To understand, you have to educate yourself first.
I'm way aheadaya. I don't think those theories correspond with Socionics as neatly as that site makes it appear. And even if it did, where is there any mention of Socionics types on that site?Originally Posted by bendertheoffender
I think those are supposed to be... inclinations at best. Not %100 correlation or anything.
Then, everyone would have a mental disorder.
And all rapists would be ISTp?
There is not. You must have some real knowledge to understand this.
Psyche is very complex and socionics takes only on the bright side
of personality. On ptypes you have some darkside etc.
Its quite messed as well as socionics, but still provides a lots of
interesting informations.
Please read the website and then comment. Its pointless to
comment something what you dont know.
Of course not, this statement is not logical.
But I can easly imagine ISTp rapists.
Just read the website.
Originally Posted by Joy
We've all read the website years ago.
At the least you seem to assume Keirsey types=socionic types... which is a big no no.
I've read the site... multiple times over the past year and a half. I don't think that Keirsey's types even correlate directly with Socionics, much less astrology or diagnosis.
Side note (not directed at you), I just realized how creepy the Socionics community here is. Anytime anyone shows up and acts like they know what they're talking about, we assume it's someone we already know.
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OK, I said, use your minds for yourself.
It does not matter what I assume. I do not
need to know types ABCD or something.
I read description and I see what it fits.
Then I read about personality disorder.
Personality disorder is a sick state
of what socionics describe.
And nobody said that the types on ptypes must be the same.
Or show me where they do not match.
PTYPES IS NOT ABOUT PERSONALITIES.
ITS ABOUT DISORDERS.
I DID NOT PUT LINK TO KERSEY OR WHATEVER.
START THINKING COZ YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE POINTESS.
SHOW ME WHERE THE WEBSITE IS WRONG
THE IS A LINK ONE MORE TIME
http://www.ptypes.com/
Tell me where is the error.
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And I dont mind the zodiac and show me some fundamental errors, please.
I`ve told you, that ISTp`s are rapists. There is a description of the disorder
and science accepts it. AND SOCIONICS IS NOT ACCEPTED WIDELY BY SCIENCE AT ALL.
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Umm, I guess your logic is in error?Originally Posted by bendertheoffender
I really don't know what you're worked up about. All we said was we don't see a %100 correlation. No one's "arguing" with you. You just like to repost that same link over and over again, I guess.
BTW, you said you didn't like Kiersey types. Then see something listed as ISTP- antisocial. But did you notice that at the top of the page it read "Keirsey's
Character Type2"? Well, that's where they get their ISTP description from. If you don't like it (like you said), then ignore it.
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If you think that personality disorder does not correspond to personality itself,
then you are totally wrong.
Here we have SICK guy. He has some personality disorder, right?
Does he fit description on ptypes?
Does he look like a ISTp?
The answer is yes and yes.
If you do not agree, then prove me why I am wrong.
If you cant see correlation or you dont understand, then you dont have anything valuable to say.
Originally Posted by Diana
Really, where did you people start coming from?
And read the f.....g website. Compare descriptions with socionics.
Systematize it.
Compare photo to some ISTp you know.
Then you have the whole image.
Originally Posted by Rocky
As for Joy's original question regarding this man's type, her observations below
indicate not a nebulously defined Socionics type, but a clearly defined psychopath (the existence of which has been proven by years of psychological research).he was extremely friendly, talkative, charismatic, etc. He would approach anyone anywhere and strike up a conversation, and most people responded favorably to him. He talked sort of quickly and said humorous, somewhat random things. His style of conversation was very much like Rocky (the boxer), a clear ESFp. He came off really EP in energy expenditure, too.
From Wikipedia.org (key word: psychopath):
If you really wanted to assign this man a specific "type," you could try, but you'd likely arrive at an erroneous judgment. A psychopath is an inherently abnormal human being. The inability to experience genuine emotions (which is very different from repressing or hiding emotions) is disordered. Though Socionics attempts to characterize certain types as being more prone to certain disorders than others, they cannot assign such egregious, abnormal, fundamentally inhuman behavior to any particular type. If they say they can, I'd like to see the research and statistics that prove it.Psychopaths have a superficial charm about them, enabled by their low self-consciousness, a willingness to say anything without concern for accuracy or truth. This extends into their pathological lying and willingness to con and manipulate others for personal gain or amusement. The prototypical psychopath's emotions are described as a shallow affect, meaning their overall way of relating is characterized by mere displays of friendliness and other emotion for personal gain; the displayed emotion need not correlate with felt emotion, in other words. Shallow affect also describes the psychopath's tendency for genuine emotion to be short lived and egocentric with an overall cold demeanor. Their behavior is impulsive and irresponsible, often failing to keep a job or defaulting on debts.
INFp, Intuitive subtype, Enneagram 6w5
Back in school and on semi-permanent hiatus from the forum
Whats so hard about that? Everything is connected to type.I refuse to believe that being a psycho rapist is related to a specific type.
Everything?Originally Posted by hitta