FDG's type one more round

[FDG]

I kind of wanted some attention you know? And it's been some time since I haven't opened a thread on the matter, and some new interesting members have come by, and they can give their opinion!

[Expat]

Are you implying that those are the only possible types for you?

[eunice]

You are not my conflictor.

[FDG]

Are you implying that those are the only possible types for you?

Thinking about most of my relationships, and thinking even about my possible mystype of the people involved in them, yes, those are the only plausible types.

[UDP]

Are you once again solid on being INFj Eunice?


As for FDG, ESTp is possible I suppose. My sense of intertype relations is skewed at the moment.

As for the matter of being consistently attracted and involved with ISFjs....
well,

how do you feel about ?

[FDG]

how do you feel about ?

Up my ass? No thanks

On second though, I prefer a white one over a black, anyways

[Joy]

If there's anything about the theory of socionics that I'm certain about, it's that you don't have a Si PoLR.

If not for that I'd say ENFj. I think activity partners can look similar to others though.

[discojoe]

Need ESFp option.

[Elro]

On second though, I prefer a white one over a black, anyways

Racist.

[Expat]

Are you implying that those are the only possible types for you?

Thinking about most of my relationships, and thinking even about my possible mystype of the people involved in them, yes, those are the only plausible types.

I find that odd, because if you consider mainly ESTp and can see yourself as possible ENTj, then ESFp - a Gamma and Se EP - should also be plausible. Unless you mean that you don't feel that ISTjs supervise you. Well, it's one factor, but if you consider ENTj it also means that you could see INFps as both your duals as your supervisees.

[FDG]

Are you implying that those are the only possible types for you?

Thinking about most of my relationships, and thinking even about my possible mystype of the people involved in them, yes, those are the only plausible types.

I find that odd, because if you consider mainly ESTp and can see yourself as possible ENTj, then ESFp - a Gamma and Se EP - should also be plausible. Unless you mean that you don't feel that ISTjs supervise you. Well, it's one factor, but if you consider ENTj it also means that you could see INFps as both your duals as your supervisees.

I have interacted with INTp girls recently, I can't see them as my dual generally

[Kristiina]

I think FDG has mistyped half of his "ISFj" friends who are actually ENFj. I think he has dated at least one ISFj, but some traits that he says are "so ISFj" are traits that also describe ENFjs (traits caused by a combination of negativism, rationality, Se-Ni preference, ethics).

[Slacker]

I think he has Te preference but I can't back it up - it's just a feeling. Also, he's said he gets along with Deltas better than is typical for ESTps. So I think he's got his type wrong but I'm not sure just what his type is. Delta or Gamma anyway. That's my opinion. I don't get the nails-on-the-blackboard feeling from him that I'd usually get from people with Se and Ti as their leading functions anyway.

[FDG]

I think FDG has mistyped half of his "ISFj" friends who are actually ENFj. I think he has dated at least one ISFj, but some traits that he says are "so ISFj" are traits that also describe ENFjs (traits caused by a combination of negativism, rationality, Se-Ni preference, ethics).

That's because you're an ISFj...

Seriously, I know some ENFj girls. They're pretty different from the ISFj ones. They move their face much more when talking; they are also generally attracted to manliness, and openly appreciate it, whereas ISFjs seem not to care, or show, or say anything, about their attractions or lack thereof. But both ISFjs and ENFjs have a tendency to overwork themselves, for example, and they both try too hard to be nice to everybody - even people they dislike - and care a lot about what others think.

Slacker_mom: it has happened as of late that ISTps like me for no particular reason - there was one in a class of mine, that never spoke to anybody (and was hated for that) except me. An ISFj and INTp girl have commented with surprise on this. Another one's always offering me drinks, inviting me places, etc (both males) - I kind of feel flattered, but I don't know what I'm offering in exchange.
However, I clash very badly with most ESTjs I meet, especially when they are above me - or they think they are - because I don't take orders well. It's fine if they're the same age as me however, we get along well.

[Kristiina]

I think FDG has mistyped half of his "ISFj" friends who are actually ENFj. I think he has dated at least one ISFj, but some traits that he says are "so ISFj" are traits that also describe ENFjs (traits caused by a combination of negativism, rationality, Se-Ni preference, ethics).

That's because you're an ISFj...

Seriously, I know some ENFj girls. They're pretty different from the ISFj ones. They move their face much more when talking; they are also generally attracted to manliness, and openly appreciate it, whereas ISFjs seem not to care, or show, or say anything, about their attractions or lack thereof. But both ISFjs and ENFjs have a tendency to overwork themselves, for example, and they both try too hard to be nice to everybody - even people they dislike - and care a lot about what others think.

tehe. I like my men manly and tough. (see, I AM an ENFj).

[Joy]

I think Kristiina's right.

[FDG]

I think FDG has mistyped half of his "ISFj" friends who are actually ENFj. I think he has dated at least one ISFj, but some traits that he says are "so ISFj" are traits that also describe ENFjs (traits caused by a combination of negativism, rationality, Se-Ni preference, ethics).

That's because you're an ISFj...

Seriously, I know some ENFj girls. They're pretty different from the ISFj ones. They move their face much more when talking; they are also generally attracted to manliness, and openly appreciate it, whereas ISFjs seem not to care, or show, or say anything, about their attractions or lack thereof. But both ISFjs and ENFjs have a tendency to overwork themselves, for example, and they both try too hard to be nice to everybody - even people they dislike - and care a lot about what others think.

tehe. I like my men manly and tough. (see, I AM an ENFj).

This is like enacting a retroactive law, but anyways, also generally ENFjs are the kind of girls that if you have a tight t-shirt will ask things like "caaaaan i toooouch you muuuuscles" which is somewhat gross, in my opinion.

[olduser]

i think estj is very possible. Bad estj stereotypes prevent you from considering it.

[Slacker]

i think estj. Bad estj stereotypes prevent you from considering it.

I've thought this but I've read arguments against it so I backed away from it. But yeah he seems to get along with us Delta people well. And he's one of the ones who when I read his posts I think, "Yeah! That's exactly right!"

Again, very very subjective though, and I don't have anything to really back it up with.

[implied]

one of the types that's a good egg. i feel like i agree with you on a lot of things, oddly enough. the things that piss you off are generally the things that piss me off.

[Joy]

i think estj. Bad estj stereotypes prevent you from considering it.

I've thought this but I've read arguments against it so I backed away from it. But yeah he seems to get along with us Delta people well. And he's one of the ones who when I read his posts I think, "Yeah! That's exactly right!"

Again, very very subjective though, and I don't have anything to really back it up with.

That was my first thought as well, once I understood what a Si PoLR. At this point he definitely seems Beta > Delta though.

[Kristiina]

I think FDG has mistyped half of his "ISFj" friends who are actually ENFj. I think he has dated at least one ISFj, but some traits that he says are "so ISFj" are traits that also describe ENFjs (traits caused by a combination of negativism, rationality, Se-Ni preference, ethics).

That's because you're an ISFj...

Seriously, I know some ENFj girls. They're pretty different from the ISFj ones. They move their face much more when talking; they are also generally attracted to manliness, and openly appreciate it, whereas ISFjs seem not to care, or show, or say anything, about their attractions or lack thereof. But both ISFjs and ENFjs have a tendency to overwork themselves, for example, and they both try too hard to be nice to everybody - even people they dislike - and care a lot about what others think.

tehe. I like my men manly and tough. (see, I AM an ENFj).

This is like enacting a retroactive law, but anyways, also generally ENFjs are the kind of girls that if you have a tight t-shirt will ask things like "caaaaan i toooouch you muuuuscles" which is somewhat gross, in my opinion.

Phah, I would NEVER!
But I have, on occasion, been staring at bodybuilders in the gym when they pull up their shirts and compare their abs. Or when a touch-looking guy takes free weights that I can't even move and starts exercising. Then I pretend to be bored and casually looking around, but really I'm just staring and thinking, "drool, muuuuscles, caaaaan i toooouch?".

[FDG]

i think estj. Bad estj stereotypes prevent you from considering it.

I've thought this but I've read arguments against it so I backed away from it. But yeah he seems to get along with us Delta people well. And he's one of the ones who when I read his posts I think, "Yeah! That's exactly right!"

Again, very very subjective though, and I don't have anything to really back it up with.

You know, I like deltas, but their parties are sometimes too slow. I kind of want to have more sex than them, usually, and they're shocked by that. They are also more group-orientated than me, whereas I only want to seduce every girl which is there, and then go away at home alone having kissed none (when i'm single). It's hard to put this in words, but I hope somebody gets it. However, I really enjoy hanging out with the wilder kind of ISTps.

INTp girls seem to think I'm an ESFp. They are fascinated by my pertainance to night life and how I can get them tickets to places/invitations through connections, but I totally feel like it's an acquired skill and not something I do naturally.

I get along well with INFj girls, but there's something slightly missing. I think they feel like I talk too much about sex. Other than that, never had problems with them, especially the Ne ones. They get riled up about wanting to do something, and I'll help them doing it.

[ScarlettLux]

I dunno, but something about you being ESTp always seemed a little off to me. For example, as annoying as some people think Ezra is, I knew immediately that he was ESTp and Beta. You for some reason, are.. different. I can't see you getting along with many INFps IRL, or even any other Betas.. I agree that your focus seems Te and I can't explain why either.

[Ezra]

On second thoughts, ESTP MBTI for you, Fabio. I think ENTp is less of a possibility now you´ve expressed that shit about not identifying with Ne. Maybe you´re ESFp.

ScarlettLux, you know your shit girl. And I trust you to, especially with that intuitive vibe you got going on.

[ScarlettLux]

Hahaha! Yeah, I would say FDG's an ENTj, personally. I voted ESTp, woops!

[krieger]

Hmm. Still not threatened by the 'Se', which could mean a number of things...

For the sake of remaining sane I advise not to take my earlier suggestion of ENFj'dom seriously.

[FDG]

Hmm. Still not threatened by the 'Se', which could mean a number of things...

For the record, I tend to agree with everything you say.

[Megan]

@FDG, I think I am sort of interested in what type you are, your posts usually make sense to me... as they appear to do to quite a few people here. Do you think you are the same type as Expat? From your writing style and the content of your posts etc I do not get the impression that you two are the same type but ...

[Ms. Kensington]

FDG, I don't think you are ENTp.

Eunice, do you know both subtypes of ESTp?

[Joy]

FDG definitely VIs as ESTp imo.

[krieger]

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[Blaze]

i usually get along much better with estp's than i get along with fdg. relation seems more quasi to me. plus he's interested in the theory, i just can't see most estp's getting into it the way he does. entj's like to work out like he does, at least the few that i know. but his posts are short and sweet mostly so i can read them (just me but i can't stand posts that are too long). this would seem to indicate estp.

[eunice]

I think he has Te preference but I can't back it up - it's just a feeling. Also, he's said he gets along with Deltas better than is typical for ESTps. So I think he's got his type wrong but I'm not sure just what his type is. Delta or Gamma anyway. That's my opinion. I don't get the nails-on-the-blackboard feeling from him that I'd usually get from people with Se and Ti as their leading functions anyway.

Yeah.

I personally might not relate to what FDG wrote in his posts, but I certainly enjoy reading them and I find what he posted makes a lot of sense. I simply can't think of anything I dislike about him.

Eunice, do you know both subtypes of ESTp?

My bro's an ESTp subtype and we get along very well (same for other subtypes, even though we might not necessarily be good friends). I don't really know any subtype (I think).

[Ezra]

I think a revolution has begun and everyone has begun to reconsider their type.

[anndelise]

I think a revolution has begun and everyone has begun to reconsider their type.

not quite
for example, I don't think diana was seriously reconsidering her type. I think she was trying to offer Gilly a chance to put up an argument that may or may not convince her....because she was tired of him questioning things she says due to his believing she's typed herself wrong.

As for UDP, it seems to me (though I don't know his true reasons), that his type threads came after constant barages that he's not acting like a stereotypical intj.

And FDG already acknowledged that he wanted some attention.

[eunice]

I think a revolution has begun and everyone has begun to reconsider their type.

As I read the descriptions and functions of other types, I begin to believe that I might be an ISFj instead. (Since it is not related to the current thread, I will stop here for now.)

[Exodus]

Hmm. Still not threatened by the 'Se', which could mean a number of things...

I agree, I don't feel like FDG supervises me, but I don't feel like we're conflictors either. We get along fine as far as I can tell. I see reasons for Fi, but I'm not sure what to make of it.

I think a revolution has begun and everyone has begun to reconsider their type.

It happens often, though admittedly not to people who have been consistent for such a long time.

[FDG]

Hmm. Still not threatened by the 'Se', which could mean a number of things...

I agree, I don't feel like FDG supervises me, but I don't feel like we're conflictors either. We get along fine as far as I can tell. I see reasons for Fi, but I'm not sure what to make of it.

Yeah, the only people I could feel myself supervising in this forum are Phaedrus and Joy

[anndelise]

Hmm. Still not threatened by the 'Se', which could mean a number of things...

I agree, I don't feel like FDG supervises me, but I don't feel like we're conflictors either. We get along fine as far as I can tell. I see reasons for Fi, but I'm not sure what to make of it.

Yeah, the only people I could feel myself supervising in this forum are Phaedrus and Joy

not tcaud anymore?