There is one for Delta...want to know what most Beta's get on enneagram.
If any other quadra wants to share here go ahead I don't care.
What types do Betas get on the Enneagram?
There is one for Delta...want to know what most Beta's get on enneagram.
If any other quadra wants to share here go ahead I don't care.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I had a little help...but came up with 6w7, but I also concidering 4w3.
so/sx/sp
So any other INFp get this as their enneagram combination? Or close? This could help with trying to find socionics type maybe...
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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type 4 is a pretty prototypical INFp. in my mind, a type 6 INFp would be rather unusual, but not necessarily a complete impossibility.
Not a 4 for you...positive outlook triad...2 or 9 or 7;
I can't see you as a 2 or 9,
my conclusion is that you're likely a 7w6 O_O
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
4 seems typical for infp. 8 typical for estp. 1 for enfj. 9 for istj.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
ENFj: 2, 3, 6, 8
ISTj: 1, 5, 6
ESTp: 7, 8
INFp: 3, 4, 5
Something to that effect.
INFp, Intuitive subtype, Enneagram 6w5
Back in school and on semi-permanent hiatus from the forum
There are many ESTp 3s unfortunately.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Which seems to be what most ENFp's around her are...eh?Originally Posted by FDG
6>7
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
.
I'm a 4, probably with a 5 wing. Next highest scores were 6, 9 and 1.
IEI-Fe 4w3
A 5w4 with the fact that I haven't really studied the enneagram in depth.
hrm
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
.
Another 5w4 here. 4, 9, and 7 being the next highest scores in that order.
sp/sx/so
I can't see 9 for ISTj at all.
1 for ENFj makes sense only in as far as all rationals could identify a bit with 1, but ENFj is certainly not the "typical" 1.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Neither can I. That's an impossible combination. Prototypical for 9 is the ISFp.
Maybe you should start going around the world and observe it. There are ISTj-Ti 9w1. Instead of saying "Impossible" to things that exist. FIRST COMES REALITY THEN YOUR MIND, OK?Neither can I. That's an impossible combination. Prototypical for 9 is the ISFp.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Those ISTjs that you think are 9w1s are most likely 1w9s in that case. No ISTj is a 9. And that's a fact.Maybe you should start going around the world and observe it. There are ISTj-Ti 9w1. Instead of saying "Impossible" to things that exist. FIRST COMES REALITY THEN YOUR MIND, OK?Neither can I. That's an impossible combination. Prototypical for 9 is the ISFp.
FDG, I have a bit of difficulty with this. 9s are said to put a lot of value on "keeping the peace" ie avoid confrontations, which is hardly a core feature of ISTjs.
Ok, what you seem to saying is that a Ti-ISTj, being closer to INTj, would not be that keen on (unnecessary) confrontations and a 9w1 would have enough of "1" to be more like someone who avoids unnecessary confrontations rather than skip them all -- I can see that, theoretically, but it seems more like a overlap stretching the types as much as possible, and focusing on behavior rather than motivations. My 2 cents.
AHAAAHAH ONLY IN YOUR MIND AND IN YOUR LITTLE BASEMENT FULL OF CRAPPY SIMULATIONS. GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND INTERACT WITH REAL HUMAN BEINGS.Those ISTjs that you think are 9w1s are most likely 1w9s in that case. No ISTj is a 9. And that's a fact.Maybe you should start going around the world and observe it. There are ISTj-Ti 9w1. Instead of saying "Impossible" to things that exist. FIRST COMES REALITY THEN YOUR MIND, OK?Neither can I. That's an impossible combination. Prototypical for 9 is the ISFp.
Expat: ah, yeah, I only focus on behaviour when typing, so you are right that in that sense it can be considered a "stretch".
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I only focus on behaviour when typing,
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
.
It seems to me that having the socionic and Enneagram types correspond all or even most of the time is assuming too much about the relationship between the two systems. Isn't it?FDG, I have a bit of difficulty with this. 9s are said to put a lot of value on "keeping the peace" ie avoid confrontations, which is hardly a core feature of ISTjs.
Ok, what you seem to saying is that a Ti-ISTj, being closer to INTj, would not be that keen on (unnecessary) confrontations and a 9w1 would have enough of "1" to be more like someone who avoids unnecessary confrontations rather than skip them all -- I can see that, theoretically, but it seems more like a overlap stretching the types as much as possible, and focusing on behavior rather than motivations. My 2 cents.
I don't see it as "relationship between the two systems". As I have stated a few times, I think the 16 Socionics types come closest to all models usually discussed here to describe reality in terms of people, their motivations, their behavior, and their relationships.
The 9 Enneagram types also describe people's motivations, so if you use that as reference point, surely you can see which Enneagram types correspond, more or less well, to Socionics types.
I don't see it as "relationship between the two systems". As I have stated a few times, I think the 16 Socionics types come closest to all models usually discussed here to describe reality in terms of people, their motivations, their behavior, and their relationships.
The 9 Enneagram types also describe people's motivations, so if you use that as reference point, surely you can see which Enneagram types correspond, more or less well, to Socionics types.
Yet again, I love how you say thing so I don't have to :wink:
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
.
This girl at work who is obsessed with Enneagram "typed" me. I'm apparently a 9, with a 1 wing. She said a lot of other stuff I didn't quite understand.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
That makes perfect sense.
Was she drunk?
lol, not at the time. But she started to correlate Enneagram with some of the more obscure aspects of astrology and lost me after she told me I was born in the "Week of the Loner."Was she drunk?
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
loooool
I don't even contribute to my own thread...I guess I just wanted Beta to tell me their Ennegram types, and that was sucessful.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
.
Enneagram Types for All Betas
The initial title of this thread was going to be "EIE Fours & IEI Sixes". Then I had a few brainwaves and changed it.
After having talked to a good friend who is definitely an EIE, and who has gone from Seven to Four, I've been forced to conclude that EIEs can be Fours. Now that I think about it, it makes a lot of sense. Calling all Fours IPs is too restrictive.
Likewise, I'm comfortable with the idea of an IEI Six.
Obviously, while types such as Eight can be both LSI and SLE, other types, such as the One and the Seven, cannot move interchangeably between LSI (One) and SLE (Seven). But there are certain types which fit nicely.
So, as a brief summary of Beta and Enneagram:
For the types listed, there are no "more or less likely" types - there are just possibilities and impossibilities for each.
what about 3 and 9?
Shit, I didn't even think about that.
No to Nine.
yes to nine. also think about EIE 7s and EIE 2s.
IEI 9, maybe.
You should add 3; I think it is possible for any of the Beta types to be 3s, although in terms of frequency I would say EIE>SLE>IEI>LSI; I think that a lot of LSIs who seem like 3s can easily be called 1w2s, but I am willing to bet that there are LSI 3s out there.
Does everyone else think its safe to assume that most EIEs who appear to be 1-ishly rigid are probably sp 3s?
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Find me a Beta Nine.
Eurgh, like who?also think about EIE 7s and EIE 2s.
Yeah, there probably are some Three STs, but I refuse to admit Three IEI.
Potentially, although not necessarily.Does everyone else think its safe to assume that most EIEs who appear to be 1-ishly rigid are probably sp 3s?
SLE 378
LSI 134568
EIE 12567
IEI 4569 (But I've never seen IEI Sixes)
I know some ISTjs IRL. I'd saysubtypes are E1s and
subtypes are E5s.
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant--> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
Four!?
What about krae?(But I've never seen IEI Sixes)
Fives are Se subtype? WTFI know some ISTjs IRL. I'd say
I agree to that
I honestly think my EIE cousin is a 1. but i am not quite sure.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
Yes, they are! They (
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
mysticsonic.
qft
I think IEI as 9 is certainly plausible. IMO more Se-LSIs are probably 6s and 8s; I would think LSI 5s are more Ti subtype.
@machintruc: I have a hard time picturing an LSI "4" who wouldn't be better classified as a 5w4, 3w4, or maybe a 6 of some kind.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
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