What do you think?
Jung and Freud both talk about Id, ego and super-ego. Do you think they overlap in any way?
What do you think?
yes, if most people have the ID, and the Id is very similar in us bc thousands of years have given us the same human experience, and the super ego is how everyone interacts with each other as a mass
i think the ego and the shadow work together by making u fake. u need to repress and manipulate some parts of u into the unconscious so that u act a certain way in the conscious mask
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I havent seen Jung talking about super-ego. Do you have a link. However, he talks about the spirit, and that's essentially the same.Originally Posted by Mika
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
spirit the same as super-ego? wtf, super-ego is about people pleasing. Jung talks about the transcendent function, I think that's more spirit (which he used to think was intuition)
I'll explain what I mean. Spirit is a fundamental psychological phenomenon were the person seems "inflated" or "possessed". We talk about spirit in "team spirit", "he has lost his spirit", "the spirit of the times". Also alcohol is called spirit because it puts you in an altered mood. Spirit is also associated with moving air, a wind. Basically the person is not entirely himself, like if you are playing sports in a team you still have your own psychological constitution but something is moving you so that you are "elevated" and act in ways that you wouldn't normally do. A "wind" is blowing through you, phenomenologically speaking.
In society, we become "possessed" and we have a social orientation, our focus, duties. One can contrast this with a depressed person, who seems to lack spirit.
I hope the connection to super-ego is easier to see now.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Alcohol is called spirits because it is a chemistry term referring to a distillate. The etymology goes back further than that, but that is the direct source.
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