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    *thread inspired by Joy*

    So what do you think?


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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lain

    Serial Experiments Lain is an anime mini-series about an adolescent girl in suburban Japan named Lain Iwakura, and her introduction to the Wired, an international computer network.
    Serial Experiments Lain raises questions about God, the collective unconscious, the Internet, conspiracy theories and many other themes common in cyberpunk literature. Fans of the series generally believe it is a good example of anime as literature, inviting and rewarding close critical analysis.
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    Supposedly cyberpunk is the essence of NiTe, at least according to Lenore Thompson. However, I am not educated enough on the topic to make any more statements.
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    *Throws phoenix down on thread!*

    Who is Lain? Wasn't that always the question?

    Did she even figure it out?

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    Lain - LII?

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    I think she is ILI.

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    Lain is most definitely an LII, this source should be helpful: https://lain.wiki/wiki/Iwakura_Lain

    On a similar note, I've been compiling a list of fictional characters of each type. Here are some characters I think are LIIs: https://vk.com/album-105461165_232488893

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    INxx

    Probable types: ILI-Ni , LII-Ne, IEI-Ni
    Unlikely types: IEI-Fe, ILI-Te, LII-Ti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone View Post
    Supposedly cyberpunk is the essence of NiTe, at least according to Lenore Thompson. However, I am not educated enough on the topic to make any more statements.
    I googled it out of curiosity and the reasoning is funny.

    Significant subsets of introverted intuitives (particularly INTJs) are drawn to Cyberpunk. This genre most encapsulating INTJs inferior function Sensation desire for physical and mental supremacy (or, ideally, a world in which strength and charisma have no power). (Though it's possible other types will be drawn to it for differing reasons)
    lain is probably LII.

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    Why do you guys think LII rather than ILI for her, for those who do? Use your own words.
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    Well, she displays no Se whatsoever. Also, she seems really savvy when it comes to building/manipulating electronics, and this fits LII-Ne better than ILI-Ni. I used to think she was INTP back in the MBTI days, but the INTPs of MBTI are probably more often LII's than ILI's.

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    @lavos Are you saying you've chosen one since your last post?

    Re Se how about that rave place she goes to and her alter ego? And when she can sometimes put up a fight.

    Re Building tech, why is this more LII than ILI? IIRC ILI has been referred to as a builder who optimizes technology in socionics descriptions. It seems to fit achieving and actualizing results pragmatically more than theorizing abstractly which would be more alpha NT.

    I haven't settled on a type for her as it's been a while since I've watched but my 2c.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFGDoomer View Post
    I think she is ILI.
    I agree. She seems Ni dom, if not ILI then Beta NF (the detached ones)...

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    She definitely, if Ni-dom, has a subdued creative/strong lead.

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    As our Lord and Saviour Gulenko says: ILI's will usually work and develop some talent with hands on stuff regarding minor things while LII's are much less likely to develop any sort of talent there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    As our Lord and Saviour Gulenko says: ILI's will usually work and develop some talent with hands on stuff regarding minor things while LII's are much less likely to develop any sort of talent there.
    Talents mostly relate to Ne possibilities and hence LII will develop them with more interest. It's in general. ILI being pragmatic may develop more what they see as having clear use.

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    Nice try @Sol, nice try. You are getting better at this. However, talents come in all sorts of forms.

    But you truly deserve a cookie:


    Anyways, to give you an answer that you are going to dismiss you need to look model A block structure. When logic of actions or force elements are not valued in ignoring and PoLR positions a person tries not get into that business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    @lavos Are you saying you've chosen one since your last post?

    Re Se how about that rave place she goes to and her alter ego? And when she can sometimes put up a fight.

    Re Building tech, why is this more LII than ILI? IIRC ILI has been referred to as a builder who optimizes technology in socionics descriptions. It seems to fit achieving and actualizing results pragmatically more than theorizing abstractly which would be more alpha NT.

    I haven't settled on a type for her as it's been a while since I've watched but my 2c.
    Well, I haven't necessarily picked that option as better; I could have argued for any of the possibilites (probably), but I found LII-Ne the easiest to do. She could fit any of the INxx's. When I look at her all I see is introversion, and a bunch of Ni/Ne.

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    She seems curious in that Alpha-NT way.

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    I tend to think ILI but it's been a while. Cyberpunk as a genre is definitely more Ni/Te than Ti/Ne.

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    I loved this when I was younger. One of my favorite animes. I remember it being a kind of constant mind-fuck you're constantly trying to understand as much as Lain. Might feel different about it now. But it seemed very philosophical and I loved that. So she's at least intuitive, I'd say.
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    I think her Se-seeking really shines through in one of the first episodes, when she suddenly reacts to the club scenery around her and gains will and confidence. ILI is the only real candidate IMO.

    What about the other characters? Alice - IEE? Mika - SLI?

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    I need to rewatch the series. I would say that ILI fits her best. I also think that Yoshitoshi ABe is a Ni dom.

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