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    This is me with my husband with the lack of Se push. How would you make him do something. What would your dialog include?

    Me: Honey, it's almost 10:00pm. You should go to bed early and get some rest.
    Hubs: Yeah, I'm not ready yet.
    Me: okay! (I don't feel the need to do anything else. He doesn't want to go to bed oh well).
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    EXIs seem to spend excessive amounts of time trying to get others to follow their directions, and seem to take it as personal failures when those others don't. If they could only avoid this seeming obsession, their personal stress levels would likely diminish significantly.........

    a.k.a. I/O

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    Ye like the Gamma quadra huh.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenology

    An optimist - does not get discouraged under any circumstances. Life upheavals and stressful events only toughen him and make more confident. He likes to laugh and entertain people. Enters contact with someone by involving him with a humorous remark. His humor is often sly and contain hints and double meanings. Easily enters into arguments and bets, especially if he is challenged. When arguing his points is often ironic, ridicules the views of his opponent. His irritability and hot temper may be unpleasant to others. However, he himself is not perceptive of this and believes that he is simply exchanging opinions.

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    If it makes you feel any better I don’t get much further.

    Me: go to sleep, it’s late
    Him: I am still working
    Me: work on it tomorrow
    Him: I have to send the report tonight
    Me: send it now
    Him: there is an error I need some time to figure it out
    Me: don’t wake me when you are done. Sleep on the sofa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegra View Post
    If it makes you feel any better I don’t get much further.

    Me: go to sleep, it’s late
    Him: I am still working
    Me: work on it tomorrow
    Him: I have to send the report tonight
    Me: send it now
    Him: there is an error I need some time to figure it out
    Me: don’t wake me when you are done. Sleep on the sofa.
    Allegra lol yes. This sounds like My esi aunt

    I make more suggestions than tell them what to do I guess
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegra View Post
    If it makes you feel any better I don’t get much further.

    Me: go to sleep, it’s late
    Him: I am still working
    Me: work on it tomorrow
    Him: I have to send the report tonight
    Me: send it now
    Him: there is an error I need some time to figure it out
    Me: don’t wake me when you are done. Sleep on the sofa.


    that sounds like reasonable and practical solution... there is no need to disturb anyone


    ... wait a minute...

    I see, I see but whatever since no one controls me in relations and cycle continues and no one gets it. That would be quite impossible situation to actualize.
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    This convo literally just happened and I handled it in a very un-Se way but it depends on the other person...

    Me: I don't mean to be a henpecker, but isn't it pretty late to be up if you have to work tomorrow?

    Boyfriend: Yeah, it is. *goes to sleep*

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    This convo literally just happened and I handled it in a very un-Se way but it depends on the other person...

    Me: I don't mean to be a henpecker, but isn't it pretty late to be up if you have to work tomorrow?

    Boyfriend: Yeah, it is. *goes to sleep*
    Lol
    Yes that’s a good one too. My husband would say “late? 10 is late? It’s not. I sleep at 12!”
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    This convo literally just happened and I handled it in a very un-Se way but it depends on the other person...

    Me: I don't mean to be a henpecker, but isn't it pretty late to be up if you have to work tomorrow?

    Boyfriend: Yeah, it is. *goes to sleep*
    It still says S to me because it takes on a more accusatory tone that also focuses on the NOW. Immediate actions. When I say should I’m thinking if he doesn’t rest he’s not going to be well rested...future... possibilities.

    My aunt will say “Isn’t it late?” “There’s no proper time and ritual?”
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I can kind of relate to what @ashlesha said.


    If my husband needs to get up early the next day, I often don’t say anything. He’s a night owl and a big boy who can take care of himself. He’s used to being up very late. It’s kind of the norm around here. But I’d say something like “It’s getting really late, don’t you have to be at so and sos early? Aren’t you going to be tired?”.


    Now if it was my mom, I’d say something like, “Mom, shouldn’t you be in bed? You are going to be tired tomorrow!”


    If it was my kids, I’d be saying, “If you haven’t taken a shower and aren’t in bed by 9pm, you are grounded! You have 15 minutes!”. I give them countdowns. I recently enacted this rule and am pretty proud of myself for not relenting when the hysterical, ‘please unground me’, starts up, because I’ll usually feel bad (and get annoyed by all the screaming) and make a bargain with them so they can get out of it. I’ve learned how bad relenting has affected their attitude towards me (basically they don’t respect me or take me seriously at all) so I’m trying to stop the relenting and bargaining.


    I feel like every person I use a different approach. I feel the reason for that is I feel like I can be bossy toward certain people while other people not so much. There are varying degrees. My husband doesn’t like people ordering him around and can get defensive if people do. I wouldn’t like it if he would let me order him around. I’d see it as a major turn off. I could never be in a relationship with a pushover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Me: Honey, it's almost 10:00pm. You should go to bed early and get some rest
    Im sure an LII would totally appreciate your call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    This is me with my husband with the lack of Se push. How would you make him do something. What would your dialog include?

    Me: Honey, it's almost 10:00pm. You should go to bed early and get some rest.
    Hubs: Yeah, I'm not ready yet.
    Me: okay! (I don't feel the need to do anything else. He doesn't want to go to bed oh well).
    tell him you will divorce him if he doesnt do as you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Im sure an LII would totally appreciate your call
    hahaha dude this is like your second attempt but iam afraid someone already beat you to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anderson21 View Post
    hahaha dude this is like your second attempt but iam afraid someone already beat you to it
    Second attempt to what

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Second attempt to what
    dont worry about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anderson21 View Post
    dont worry about it
    DoNT WorrY AbOUt iT

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    you forgot to insert the spongebob meme hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegra View Post
    If it makes you feel any better I don’t get much further.

    Me: go to sleep, it’s late
    Him: I am still working
    Me: work on it tomorrow
    Him: I have to send the report tonight
    Me: send it now
    Him: there is an error I need some time to figure it out
    Me: don’t wake me when you are done. Sleep on the sofa.
    interestingly enough, that sounds like a female EIE + male LIE couple where the EIE can't make the LIE understand how he has been neglecting her recently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegra View Post
    If it makes you feel any better I don’t get much further.

    Me: go to sleep, it’s late
    Him: I am still working
    Me: work on it tomorrow
    Him: I have to send the report tonight
    Me: send it now
    Him: there is an error I need some time to figure it out
    Me: don’t wake me when you are done. Sleep on the sofa.
    this sounds like all of high school for me as a LIE, just "don't wake us up across the hall when you go to bed!"

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